04-23-2009, 11:05 AM | #1 |
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Faster than Wait
By basic set rules, if someone has a Wait running, they have the drop on everyone else (except possibly others with a wait running, as covered in MA).
But realistically, that's not going to be a given. If you act fast enough, you could beat the Waiting person's reaction time and outmaneuver them despite their advantaged position. Is there a rule anywhere to support this? If not, what should it look like? |
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04-23-2009, 11:28 AM | #3 | |
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04-23-2009, 11:46 AM | #4 | |
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I don't think there's any rule to allow one to ignore a Wait, other than not doing what actually triggers it. One could think up one for fake-outs, which might be treated similarly to a Feint/Ruse, but based on Basic Speed instead of DX/IQ. If the Waiting character fails, he either triggers the Wait early or doesn't do so at all (depending on just what the fake-out was). I'd probably give the Waiting character a decent bonus on the quick contest. ETS would give a huge bonus to the Waiting character, but probably only a modest one (if any at all) to the aggressor. For moving so quickly the enemy is unable to react, maybe treat it the same but base it on your Move (that is, your movement for that round - so characters with Enhanced Move and ATR get a benefit from those traits) rather than Basic Speed? I'd probably give the Waiting character a more substantial bonus in this case - you have to be moving pretty bloody fast to get around a Wait!
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My basic thought here is that if you're really just that fast, you could for instance quickdraw and shoot someone faster than they could react and perform their Wait (shoot him if he moves). My first draft notion was using Cascading Waits, but let the person who triggered the waits in on the roll-off. With a hefty penalty, probably at least -10. Last edited by Ulzgoroth; 04-23-2009 at 11:49 AM. |
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04-23-2009, 11:57 AM | #6 | |
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'I waited and he still got the drop on me. Shouldn't have happened, but this time it did.' |
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04-23-2009, 01:18 PM | #10 |
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Why not just house rule that in order to succeed at a wait you must win a contest with the one who triggered the wait?
Say that whoever wins by the largest margin in a roll based heavily on Basic speed, probably with the waiter enjoying a bonus for having the advantage of acting on his terms.
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