Newbie having a hard time with RPM

[Juballa]

What do people use as the cutoff between lesser and greater effects for stat changes and bestows a bonus/penalty?

Personally, I've been eyeballing +3 or better to a stat and +4 or better for BaB/P as greater effects.

[Adelus]

How would you model an attack that lets you establish telekinetic control over someone to quickly hurl them in one direction? For instance, would this work:

TK Hurl
Greater Control Body[5]();
Subject Weight: 300 lbs. [3],
Speed: 50 yds/second [8],
Range: Normal: 10 yds [4].
Cost: 60 (20x3)
(made using Ritual Designer at http://gurps-monsterhunters.appspot.com/)

Does that only set their top speed though, and if so what is the acceleration? Considering the potential slam damage for a velocity like this, does this seem munchkiny compared to the normal damage method?

Edit: Whoops, missed that bit by PK up a few posts. I'm thinking this would be legal - after all, you could always lift someone up using the method described and then just cancel the effect to let them drop or hurl them off a ledge - if you're in control, whats to stop you from forcing them up to maximum speed and crashing them into an obstacle or flinging them away?

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by Juballa

What do people use as the cutoff between lesser and greater effects for stat changes and bestows a bonus/penalty?

Personally, I've been eyeballing +3 or better to a stat and +4 or better for BaB/P as greater effects.

I use about ±3 for stats. As for the cutoff between lesser/greater effects for bestows a bonus/penalty of up to ±5. It's worked for me. Your GM's mileage may vary.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by Adelus

How would you model an attack that lets you establish telekinetic control over someone to quickly hurl them in one direction? For instance, would this work:

TK Hurl
Greater Control Body[5]();
Subject Weight: 300 lbs. [3],
Speed: 50 yds/second [8],
Range: Normal: 10 yds [4].
Cost: 60 (20x3)
(made using Ritual Designer at http://gurps-monsterhunters.appspot.com/)

Does that only set their top speed though, and if so what is the acceleration? Considering the potential slam damage for a velocity like this, does this seem munchkiny compared to the normal damage method?

Edit: Whoops, missed that bit by PK up a few posts. I'm thinking this would be legal - after all, you could always lift someone up using the method described and then just cancel the effect to let them drop or hurl them off a ledge - if you're in control, whats to stop you from forcing them up to maximum speed and crashing them into an obstacle or flinging them away?

Seems legit to me, I wouldn't worry about the slam damage - you can after all use regular TK for slam damage (a favorite trick of the teke in my current campaign).

[Onkl]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

I don't think that's legit...perhaps if it were something like +1 to DX-based combat skills or something like that.

What about +0.25 to Basic Speed?

How would you model that?

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by Onkl

What about +0.25 to Basic Speed?

How would you model that?

Altered Traits, Basic Speed +0.25, (5)

[PK]

Originally Posted by Onkl

To give a living subject of a spell +1 to DX
<snip>
what is the difference?

You said it yourself. You didn't say you were trying to give the subject "+1 to a broad set of DX-based rolls." You're trying to give the subject "+1 to DX." So you should use Altered Traits, DX+1. Always look at what you're trying to do with the spell, then choose the option which describes it -- 99% of the time, that'll be the most appropriate choice.

[Edges]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

I use about ±3 for stats. As for the cutoff between lesser/greater effects for bestows a bonus/penalty of up to ±5. It's worked for me. Your GM's mileage may vary.

But in a post above, you agreed with Onkl that you would make a +1DX a greater effect. Did you mean to?

[Mathulhu]

Here's my take on it.

Using RPM to generate favorable circumstances that give a bonus (or more reduce a penalty) is a lesser effect. Such as increasing the light level or ensuing a gun is well maintained, either could give a bonus to gun skill as a lesser effect.

Using RPM to just increase something is a greater effect regardless of how minor or major the result is. If you are improving dexterity by augmenting every muscle in the body it is a greater effect.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by Edges

But in a post above, you agreed with Onkl that you would make a +1DX a greater effect. Did you mean to?

No, I was agreeing with how the DX bonus should be handled. I edited my post above to reflect that. I'd say +1 to +3 DX could be written off as a Lesser effect.