Narrow Minded

[Mystic]

Hi

I recently bought Munchkin dice and i don't really understand the card Narrow Minded.

For the part + 10 on a Half-Breed is okay but for the rest i'm not sure.
The card say " Any penalty it has against any component race of the character is reversed and becomes a bonus "

What is a component race ? Do that mean that a monster + 5 against elve become - 5 against elve ??

[MunchkinMan]

Okay, you're a Half-Breed Dwarf/Elf and you are facing Santa, who has a -5 penalty against Elves. Someone plays Narrow Minded on him. Because you are a Half-Breed he gets a +10 bonus and because Elf is a component race of your Half-Breed nature, his -5 penalty against Elves now becomes a +5 bonus. This means that Narrow-Minded Santa (a Level 9 Monster) is an effective 24 against you. Of course, you drop the Half-Breed and the Dwarf and suddenly you're looking at a wimpy Narrow-Minded Santa with an effective 4. . .

[Mystic]

Ok thanx, that gonna hurt ; )

[PK]

I still don't see why this is a Treasure card instead of a Door card. It's the only monster enhancer to be such, and it's such a restricted, specific card that it's actually less useful than the other enhancers in the game.

I have two sets of Munchkin Dice (because hey, Munchkin Dice) and I happily put all of the cards into the deck so we have several Darks, Highs, etc., but I've pulled the Narrow-Minded cards out. Everyone (including myself) sighed when they drew them for treasure. I thought about peeling the face off and gluing them to a Door back instead, but decided to just toss 'em into the underwear drawer with the Kneepads instead.

[Enzzo]

Erik has stated that Enhancer Enhancers can be played at any time during any combat where a Monster Enhancer that adds or subtracts Levels.

Can an Enhancer Enhancer (e.g., Really, Really) be used on Narrow Minded? Does it matter whether the monster is actually receiving a bonus from being Narrow Minded?

[MunchkinMan]

Originally Posted by Enzzo

Erik has stated that Enhancer Enhancers can be played at any time during any combat where a Monster Enhancer that adds or subtracts Levels.

Can an Enhancer Enhancer (e.g., Really, Really) be used on Narrow Minded? Does it matter whether the monster is actually receiving a bonus from being Narrow Minded?

No. Narrow Minded doesn't give a specific bonus/penalty to the Monster, so I'd not call it a Monster Enhancer for this purpose, and therefore it can't receive a Monster Enhancer Enhancer.

[Clipper]

Ah, so is it safe to say that Narrow-Minded is also not copied by Mate or Mommy, then? It's something I've pondered for a long time, but if it's not a Monster Enhancer at all, then that solves the issue.

[Enzzo]

It does give a specific bonus: +10 vs (1/2-breeds, 1/3-breeds, and chimeras)
It enhances the monster, so if it's not a Monster Enhancer, then what is it?

[Clipper]

I think MunchkinMan is saying that it doesn't always provide a bonus, instead providing a contextual one. The definition of Monster Enhancers from the rules is:

Originally Posted by Rules

Certain cards, called monster enhancers, raise or lower the combat strength of individual monsters.

Narrow-Minded can raise the combat strength, but it also might have no effect.

I classify all my cards into a database so I can easily look up statistics and so on and I was also struggling with whether to call it a monster enhancer or not. I did have it marked as one, but given MM's ruling, I changed it to a combat one-shot instead. It joins the ranks of Wandering Monster, Dead Broke and Typographical Error.

[Vincentheartthrob]

Originally Posted by MunchkinMan

Okay, you're a Half-Breed Dwarf/Elf and you are facing Santa, who has a -5 penalty against Elves. Someone plays Narrow Minded on him. Because you are a Half-Breed he gets a +10 bonus and because Elf is a component race of your Half-Breed nature, his -5 penalty against Elves now becomes a +5 bonus. This means that Narrow-Minded Santa (a Level 9 Monster) is an effective 24 against you. Of course, you drop the Half-Breed and the Dwarf and suddenly you're looking at a wimpy Narrow-Minded Santa with an effective 4. . .

In this example what happens if you just drop the Dwarf race? I know Santa would still have +10 from Narrow-Minded, but since none of the disadvantages of being an Elf occur, because you are a half-elf, does the reversed penalty not count against you making Santa a 19? Or does Narrow-Minded overrule that benefit since it was originally a penalty to the monster and Santa remains a 24?