[DF Idea] Diabolization

[Dwarf99]

Has anyone ever considered converting one or all of the various diablo games (expansions included, even that obscure Hellfire one) to make it compatible with the Dungeon Fantasy series? The only posts I can seem to find involve the computer games and don't have much to do with GURPS...

[Landwalker]

It doesn't seem like there would be all that much conversion necessary. All you really need to emulate the Diablo games are a scroll of identification, a scroll of town portal, an ungodly number of weak enemies interspersed by the periodic legitimate threat, with a nearly-equally ungodly number and permutation of magical items that inexplicably are vomited forth from their ruined corpse, and one or more DF-compatible PCs with a fast CP-growth rate. Then you run around and exhaust your sword arm / casting arm mowing down untold thousands of mindless adversaries. Boom, Diablo.

Unless you're looking for something more specific. But that's pretty much it.

[vierasmarius]

I think more interesting than trying to match the play style of Diablo (ie, mindless mook-mashing while mining magic mmm-equipment) would be to draw inspiration from the character and enemy archetypes and their various powers. The Paladin, for example, is clearly a Holy Warrior with a variety of abilities, from martial techniques to Auras of Power. The Assassin primarily uses Imbuements, powered by a "Combo" Energy Reserve that's refilled by hitting stuff (not sure of how precisely to build that; Limited ER Regen? Follow-Up Leech? Vampiric Weapon?)

[jeff_wilson]

My primary obstacle to Diabloization is that unlike the game devs the GM is subject to the players' demands to justify their abilities' nerfing. Choosing between "It's a 40 foot lizard!! How can it make a 6' skeleton with 8 HP?!?!" and "But the game doesn't charge more for skeletons made from bigger creatures!" sounds like a losing proposition.

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by vierasmarius

The Assassin primarily uses Imbuements, powered by a "Combo" Energy Reserve that's refilled by hitting stuff (not sure of how precisely to build that; Limited ER Regen? Follow-Up Leech? Vampiric Weapon?)

Triggered Recharge was an enhancement we hashed out on the forum for just this sort of thing. Combined with Limited Recharge, it should do for you.

EDIT: There's a link at the bottom of the wiki article to the original thread, where an alternate Regeneration build is available if you don't like the de-novo enhancement.

[Stripe]

You would need an auction house and charge your players real money to buy items from it to convert Diablo 3. It's basically a text-based trading game.

[Bruno]

Seriously guys, spending the thread trash-talking the setting the OP is asking about is not only non-helpful, but downright rude.

I thought we were better than that here.

I know not everyone's been rude, but I think the folks who have been know who you are.

[sir_pudding]

GURPS Dungeon Fantasy Monsters 1 has a section that's a deliberate nod to Diablo about reusing the same monsters with an added lens.

[Kuroshima]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

GURPS Dungeon Fantasy Monsters 1 has a section that's a deliberate nod to Diablo about reusing the same monsters with an added lens.

And the horde pigmies are definitively drop in Fetish replacements (How I hated those guys).

Mind you, the lore of Sanctuary (the world the Diablo franchise happens in) is definitively interesting, and it would make a decent DF setting.

[Peter Knutsen]

Originally Posted by vierasmarius

I think more interesting than trying to match the play style of Diablo (ie, mindless mook-mashing while mining magic mmm-equipment) would be to draw inspiration from the character and enemy archetypes and their various powers. The Paladin, for example, is clearly a Holy Warrior with a variety of abilities, from martial techniques to Auras of Power. The Assassin primarily uses Imbuements, powered by a "Combo" Energy Reserve that's refilled by hitting stuff (not sure of how precisely to build that; Limited ER Regen? Follow-Up Leech? Vampiric Weapon?)

Diablo is basically a roguelike, with Diablo II adding weapon and monster prefixes and suffices. Roguelike means random dungeon and monster generation, which is not an RPG system issue. Prefixes and suffices alter or add or subtract properties and traits, and so can be handled easily in GURPS 4E with Lenses. Doing the same for magic items takes a bit of work but is quite doable.

There's no point in trying to import or emulate the classes from Diablo, or from Diablo II or III, unless you think they or part of them are actually good.