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Old 04-23-2012, 01:08 AM   #21
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Anti-technology does not mean living in the trees with only natural rocks as defense. The Amish are always around 100 years behind the rest of the world at most.
Precursor luddites might simply stay at just above PC species' tech instead of uber advanced alien levels.


Also, it allows some worlds to have emergency back up super tech that they may not understand anymore.
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:09 AM   #22
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Anti-technology does not mean living in the trees with only natural rocks as defense. The Amish are always around 100 years behind the rest of the world at most.
Precursor luddites might simply stay at just above PC species' tech instead of uber advanced alien levels.
They could still go extinct the old fashioned way.
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:15 AM   #23
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They could still go extinct the old fashioned way.
Predation, evolving into a new species, or climatic change mean what exactly for this thread? We just go back to doomsday technology.
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:23 AM   #24
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Predation, evolving into a new species, or climatic change mean what exactly for this thread?
In the case of the back to nature luddite precursors, exactly what it always means. The ones that stay on the homeworld and don't embrace the Singularity eventually just either go extinct or aren't noticeably different from the younger races when encountered. Traveller's Droyne and Chirpers.
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In the case of the back to nature luddite precursors, exactly what it always means. The ones that stay on the homeworld and don't embrace the Singularity eventually just either go extinct or aren't noticeably different from the younger races when encountered. Traveller's Droyne and Chirpers.
So "de-evolution"? I'm not a fan of that concept as remotely realistic. Cultures don't last millions of years.
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:33 AM   #26
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Anti-technology does not mean living in the trees with only natural rocks as defense. The Amish are always around 100 years behind the rest of the world at most.
So the always 100 years behind guys have moved on, too, they just live in comparatively primitive habitats in the more hospitable x-ray binaries.

If you assume that there was a significant transitional period, with large numbers of Precursors living on planets or habitats around main-sequence stars, but industrial infrastructure increasingly be situated in high-energy environments, it may not be possible for Precursor Luddites to maintain near-Precursor levels of technology, even if they wanted to.

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Precursor luddites might simply stay at just above PC species' tech instead of uber advanced alien levels.
Also, it allows some worlds to have emergency back up super tech that they may not understand anymore.
These are potential pluses, if the GM so desires.
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Predation, evolving into a new species, or climatic change mean what exactly for this thread? We just go back to doomsday technology.
The non-luddite precursors might exterminate them before moving on to prevent them from becoming a threat to the younger races it seeded .
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So "de-evolution"? I'm not a fan of that concept as remotely realistic.
Who said anything about de-evolution. If everybody on Earth sublimed except the Amish, and a Supervolcano, or Interstellar Dust Cloud, Or Big-Rock or whatever happened then humans are extinct. Sooner or later that stuff happens. If aliens come before that they find the Amish.
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Complex apex animal species don't last hundreds of millions of years. Besides that's human cultures. It's plausible that (especially longer lived) aliens might be different.
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Complex apex animal species don't last hundreds of millions of years. Besides that's human cultures. It's plausible that (especially longer lived) aliens might be different.
It's hard to imagine an advanced technological species that is never the less incapable of changing culturally over millions of years.
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:43 AM   #30
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results in a depleted for the setting (which might be cool but does have disadvantages)
It could be depleted of something that the younger races don't know about and don't miss, because their technology developed without it and they only encounter it Precursor devices (and the younger races don't know how those work, anyway).
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