Stealing a Reloaded Die

[Ozzmal]

Another arguement that kinda came up last night.

The Thief went to steal my reloaded die. I didnt think I could use the reloaded die to change the result (since that was the item she was stealing). But im not so sure.

[snarky]

To avoid similar issues, we've essentially "phased" the Thief's steal attempts. The Thief declares they're going to steal something, then roll the die, we pause to see if someone can/wants to change the roll of the die, and if not, the Thief takes what he wants, including a Reloaded Die.

[Ozzmal]

Originally Posted by snarky

To avoid similar issues, we've essentially "phased" the Thief's steal attempts. The Thief declares they're going to steal something, then roll the die, we pause to see if someone can/wants to change the roll of the die, and if not, the Thief takes what he wants, including a Reloaded Die.

Ahh, I just didnt know if you were allowed to use an item the thief is attempting to steal, since they were trying to steal my reloaded die. In a similiar scenario, if a thief was trying to steal my wand of dowsing, would I be allowed to play it even after shes discarded her card?

[Clipper]

I believe this comes down to the ruling of cards that can cancel others, of which there are very few. Reloaded Die can be triggered by the dice roll, cancelling that roll. Wand of Dowsing is not a card that can cancel any affect of the theft and thus you must resolve the theft attempt before you could use the item. Thus no, you wouldn't be able to use the wand once the theft has been announced.

[thedag]

I wouldn't mind seeing an official ruling on this one. I can understand the argument put forward so far with reloaded die being one ofthe few cards that can interupt. However the rules also state that you can't get rid of a card to stop a thief from stealing it so if the target card has been named as the reloaded die I can also see a good argument for not allowing it to be used as it would be getting rid of the card to prevent thief from stealing it. if a third player had a reloaded die (don't know if thats possible) then they could use that. I personally wouldlean towards saying no.

[Pleh]

I agree with Clipper on this.The rules on the Reloaded Die are very clear. Any time someone else rolls a die, you can set it to be whatever you want. Since the Thief must roll a die to determine the success of the theft, it's fair game to use the Reloaded Die to make them fail and lose a level for it (assuming they aren't level 1).