Terraforming the Solar System

[combatmedic]

Dulinor, the great martyr for progressive democracy in the Third Imperium!

[Malenfant]

Does anyone remember that this topic is about TERRAFORMING?

If you want to argue about divergence points of the GT setting, can you please start another thread?

[Flyndaran]

Then I say that the pcs are after a rumored Ancient Genesis device to terraform a world in a useful jump point nexus. The profits would be massive.

[David Johnston2]

IN the Imperium setting, I recall reading that terraforming is one of the things that research stations play around with. The indications were that the Imperium wasn't pursuing it seriously on a large scale. But then the Imperium has little reason to when interstellar travel is so much cheaper a way to expand and life bearing planets are so common and easily reached. A culture that pursued terraforming without Ancient technology would probably be very rich, and very insular, quite probably lacking a frontier not already occupied by interstellar-capable cultures. However, one end-game scenario I could see for the Imperium is "As it moves into the next tech level the ruling class becomes obsessed with devoting it's resources into massive terraforming projects in the core while the frontiers are steadily abandoned and turned into independent buffer states."

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by combatmedic

Dulinor, the great martyr for progressive democracy in the Third Imperium!

Yeah, Megatraveller and TNE were filled with progressive democracy...

[combatmedic]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Yeah, Megatraveller and TNE were filled with progressive democracy...

There would have been, if Dulinor had prevailed. In between moping around the apartment listening to ancient albums of The Cure and writing soulful poetry about his ex -girlfriend, the Archduke liked to tinker with political reform. When he wasn't practicising his marksmanship, that is.

In all seriousness, the MT write up actually does describe him as a progressive figure, someone who wants more 'democracy' in the Third Imperium and greater Imperial involvement in the development of member worlds for the benefit of the citizens.

[jason taylor]

Originally Posted by combatmedic

There would have been, if Dulinor had prevailed. In between moping around the apartment listening to ancient albums of The Cure and writing soulful poetry about his ex -girlfriend, the Archduke liked to tinker with political reform. When he wasn't practicising his marksmanship, that is.

In all seriousness, the MT write up actually does describe him as a progressive figure, someone who wants more 'democracy' in the Third Imperium and greater Imperial involvement in the development of member worlds for the benefit of the citizens.

Which wouldn't work both because of the time lag and the necessity of making allowance for pariochial rulers who have de facto control over their people's votes whatever the Imperium says about the matter. The best that can be done along that line is representation from each planet and the fief system probably does that reasonably well.

What could be done is to have an electoral seneschal in the Imperial Baron's household chosen by the local world.

[combatmedic]

Originally Posted by jason taylor

Which wouldn't work both because of the time lag and the necessity of making allowance for pariochial rulers who have de facto control over their people's votes whatever the Imperium says about the matter. The best that can be done along that line is representation from each planet and the fief system probably does that reasonably well.

What could be done is to have an electoral seneschal in the Imperial Baron's household chosen by the local world.

Don't get me wrong.

(serious hat now firmly in place)

Dulinor wasn't just a cold-blooded murderer or an ambitious traitor- he was one of that particularly horrid breed of criminals: the self-righteous revolutionary zealot. He was one of those Jacobin-types who beleives in 'the Rights of Man' but not the right of any one man. He had a grand scheme to radically alter society by force, consequences be damned.. Those who stood his his way had to be eliminated for the good of 'The People of the Imperium.' We've seen this kind of evil before.

[jason taylor]

Originally Posted by combatmedic

Don't get me wrong.

(serious hat now firmly in place)

Dulinor wasn't just a cold-blooded murderer or an ambitious traitor- he was one of that particularly horrid breed of criminals: the self-righteous revolutionary zealot. He was one of those Jacobin-types who beleives in 'the Rights of Man' but not the right of any one man. He had a grand scheme to radically alter society by force, consequences be damned.. Those who stood his his way had to be eliminated for the good of 'The People of the Imperium.' We've seen this kind of evil before.

Ah! The mystery is solved. We have someone with a motive. How did you arrange his death?

[combatmedic]

Originally Posted by jason taylor

Ah! The mystery is solved. We have someone with a motive. How did you arrange his death?

Well, I travelled back in time to the early 90s and jumped on the BBSs for Traveller fans. I posted many flames, which produced a mighty firestorm of hatred for Dulinor and all his vile works of dickitude.

Years later, my carefully wrought campaign of psychological warfare paid off when Loren Weisman killed Dulinor aboard his shuttle via the dread Ancient device known as...The Retcon of Almighty Fiat.