Trojan Horse Conundrum

[Sappinicci]

We ran into a situation last night that almost caused a brawl! The argument was over the use of the Trojan Horse card. It goes as follows:

1. A level 9 player kicked down the door and got a wimpy monster and faught it. After everyone burned up their cards trying to get this player to lose, but in the end, she could beat the monster and was going to win the game.

2. But wait! When the monster was defeated, someone threw out the Trojan Horse card and tossed the Plutonium Dragon into the frey, which would have caused the player to not win the game.

So heres the debate.

The person who was going to win the game says that since she defeated the monster, she would take her level, not take the treasure (because who can make you take treasure?!?!) , and win the game.

Most everyone else says that defeating the monster causes the "taking treasure" part of the game to happen, and this triggers the use of the Trojan Horse card. So she could not take tresure as her choice, but the turn of events still allows the Trojan Horse to be played at this moment.

So lets just say it got UGLY!!! Anyway, it is the only thing we havent been able to resolve. Any help on this?

Also, if the Trojan Horse is properly played at this point, does the player still level up before fighting the Trojan Horse monster, or is all level and treasure rewards given when all combat is complete?

So talk amongst yourselves, thanks!

[Andrew Hackard]

You may not choose to forgo part of your reward for defeating a monster to avoid the Trojan Horse card.

[MunchkinMan]

I just want to point out that the rules say, "Discard the monster card, including any enhancers and one-shot items played, and draw treasure." There's no qualifying statement to indicate that this is a choice and one could not draw Treasure after winning a combat.

So, in answer to the question, "Who can make you take Treasure?" The rules can.

I also believe that our official stance on the Leveling issue has been that you don't gain the Level until after you defeat the other Monster(s). Andrew can confirm or deny that, since the color reprint and the 1.5 rules changes have actually changed how combat rewards are dealt out just a bit.

[Andrew Hackard]

Trojan Horse extends the combat, and you do not gain levels or Treasure from a combat until the combat is concluded.

[ohos]

will player get lvls from previous monster after killing dragon too?

[Kirt]

"...you still get the Levels for any Monsters killed in the original combat, plus any Levels obtained if you kill the Monster(s) in the new combat."

MunchkinMan, here.

[Sappinicci]

Thanks for the clarification.

We solved the problem that night by letting the guy that that threw down the Trojan Horse pick it back up and instead use his Annihilation card to remove the monster from play, thus avoiding her from winning the game. Gotta love it!

[Andrew Hackard]

I'm reversing my previous statement: Trojan Horse does not extend combat, but starts a new one, and therefore you cannot use it to prevent someone from winning the game.

[morleydotes]

Andrew, would you FAQ this please. It's one that I will be using a lot.

Thanks

Pat

[Andrew Hackard]

Originally Posted by morleydotes

Andrew, would you FAQ this please. It's one that I will be using a lot.

It's already in the FAQ. I'm playing catch-up.