GURPS Powers: Divine Favor

[B9anders]

Kromm's been ninja'd!

[Stone Dog]

He is too busy bringing the awesome to worry about piddling details like who posted what. ;)

[demonsbane]

Originally Posted by B9anders

Kromm's been ninja'd!

Yep. Maybe both threads can be merged?

[Tyneras]

I'm in love!

I want to combine Sermonize with whatever we get from GURPS Social Engineering.

The thing I love most about this is how it makes i much easier to point to a difference between a mage and a cleric. For too long, a cleric was basically "a mage with healing spells".

[lexington]

Originally Posted by Tyneras

I'm in love!

I want to combine Sermonize with whatever we get from GURPS Social Engineering.

Ceremonial prayers?

[dataweaver]

Originally Posted by lexington

Ceremonial prayers?

*HISS!* Begone, foul creature! The whole point behind Divine Favor is that it isn't a matter of ceremonies; it's about establishing and maintaining a positive relationship with your God.

Incidentally, this means that a properly played cleric is going to be praying not just for fire support, but also for guidance: "let me know what you want me to do."

[Tyneras]

Originally Posted by lexington

Ceremonial prayers?

Already covered under Petition Roll Modifiers on page 5.

I was thinking more about using the extra charisma to fuel my rise to power, or raise an army to fight the bad guys, or create public support for something that my god supports.

edit: or maybe just convince the faithful to raise funds to improve the church.

[b-dog]

One thing I must say about this book and what I like about it is that it really tries to be close to a Judeo-Christian concept of a cleric. The Dungeon Fantasy cleric was modeled on the Judeo-Christian cleric from vampire movies so it is really cool that a character with divine favor would really come close to this instead of just a wizard with healing spells. I think that a DF template would be quite useful for divine favor clerics too. I would also love it if there were templates with info for Christian clercs for use with DF as this is truly where the original DF cleric came from instead of some religion where the cleric worships Glorp the Good. The same would be true of a Knights Templar template for the holy warrior.

[PK]

Originally Posted by b-dog

One thing I must say about this book and what I like about it is that it really tries to be close to a Judeo-Christian concept of a cleric.

I can't disagree with that, but I'd like to point out that it's not modeled on just the Judeo-Christian concept of a cleric! In particular, the moral code is wide open -- you just have to take at least -10 points in "religious disadvantages," which can model literally any faith. And the miracles are drawn from Islam, Hindu, Native American, and several other beliefs. I actually did a fair bit of research when coming up with the miracles that felt right, and only a portion of that research was Biblical.

tl;dr version: Divine Favor tries to be close to real-world concepts of a holy cleric, but not that of any one particular religion.