Some rather silly fantasy weapons made with the LTC2 rules...

Sam Baughn · 01-11-2011, 09:08 AM

As an exercise in getting to grips with the weapon customisation rules in Low-Tech Companion 2 and to see if I could spot any especially overpowered options, I made a few fantasy weapons. Most of them probably wouldn't be practical in the real world, but due to quirks of the game rules, they turn out to be strangely effective.

Stabby-smasher
A four-foot long wooden haft topped with a four-foot metal spike, the two halves seperated by a flanged metal mace head.

Mace with long handle, full-sized spearhead, very long spike.

Code:


 		Damage 		Reach 	Parry 	Cost 	Weight 	ST
One-handed 	sw+4 cr 	2 	0U	$155 	9 	14
 or		thr+2 imp	3	0U	-	-	14

Two-handed	sw+5 cr 	2 	0U	-	-	13†
 or		thr+3 imp	3	0U	-	-	13†

Scorpion's Claw
A short wooden haft mounting a large, hooked blade, a curved prong in front of that and a curved hand-guard projecting back along the haft below that.

Sickle with prongs and added hilt.

Code:


 		Damage 		Reach 	Parry 	Cost 	Weight 	ST
Slash 		sw cut	 	1 	+1	$112.50	2.75 	8
Stab		sw imp		1	+1U	-	-	8
Hook		thr-2 cut	1	+1U	-	-	8	

Notes: +2 to Disarm, -1 to Holdout, can get stuck, can hook, -2 familiarity penalty.

Berzerk Bludgeon
A large hammer with multiple small spikes on one face and a single large one on the other.

Maul with spikes and pick.

Code:


 		Damage 		Reach 	Parry 	Cost 	Weight 	ST
Bludgeon	sw+6 cr 	1,2* 	0U	$182	12.5	13‡
 or		sw+4 imp	1,2*	0U	-	-	13‡

Ultimate Fighting Stick
A wooden club with an extended 'S' shape, studded with metal spikes and a pronged cross-guard.

Light Club with spikes, hook, added hilt and prongs.

Code:


 		Damage 		Reach 	Parry 	Cost 	Weight 	ST
Stick		sw+2 cr		1	+1	$132	3.75	10	
 or		thr+2 cr	1	+1	-	-	10

Notes: +2 to Disarm, -1 to Holdout, can hook, -2 familiarity penalty.

DemiBenson · 01-11-2011, 12:47 PM

Hero's Heater
An expensive medium shield with all the options, for the dungeon delver where budget is not a concern.

All-Metal Heater Shield with Conical Boss, Disarming Spikes, Lance Cutout, Lantern Hook, and Rim Blade.
Shield bashes for +1 crushing damage, disarms at +1, gives +1 to Lance skill, and can slash for swing-2 cutting damage.

Code:

TL Shield          DB    Cost    Weight   DR/HP   Cover DR   Notes
3   Hero's Heater   2     $553    14.25   4/19    8

Bravo's Buckler
A modest buckler with enough blades to be used as offensive weaponry in its own right.

All-Metal Parrying Buckler with Large Hiltless Knife, Long Spike Boss, and Disarming Spikes, and Rim Blade.
Can attack with the knife at only -1, shield bashes for +1 impaling damage, disarms at +1, and can slash for swing-2 cutting damage.

Code:

TL Shield            DB     Cost  Weight   DR/HP   Cover DR   Notes
1   Bravo's Buckler   1     $395    10      4/16   8      +1 to Block

DanHoward · 01-11-2011, 03:02 PM

Laminated and all-metal are mutually exclusive. How can you have a laminated wood construction in a shield with no wood?

DemiBenson · 01-11-2011, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanHoward

Laminated and all-metal are mutually exclusive. How can you have a laminated wood construction in a shield with no wood?

I thought it could be two-layer like duplex plate and take advantage of different metal properties.

Ulzgoroth · 01-11-2011, 06:29 PM

Adding a hilt does seem a bit perverse, effectively offering a huge bonus to weapons for not already having a hilt in their stats. Makes a hilted off-hand parrying hatchet seem like a really useful thing to have.

I guess for most of them it realistically wouldn't matter because you're using an attack with U parry, and possibly also one that makes the weapon unready. But there are exceptions, like the fighting stick.

Other than that they don't seem too bad. Though using the Stabby-Smasher's long spear functionality with Axe/Mace skill seems off. As does using a 3-yard weapon one-handed.

Icelander · 01-11-2011, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanHoward

Laminated and all-metal are mutually exclusive. How can you have a laminated wood construction in a shield with no wood?

Why do metal shields have the same DR as wooden shields?

Kazander · 01-11-2011, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icelander

Why do metal shields have the same DR as wooden shields?

Not quite sure on that one myself. These are light metal shields; -25% weight instead of double weight like they are in Basic.

Bruno · 01-11-2011, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icelander

Why do metal shields have the same DR as wooden shields?

Significantly thinner than the wooden shields, from the looks of things.

Icelander · 01-11-2011, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruno

Significantly thinner than the wooden shields, from the looks of things.

Not thin enough, I think.

Metal is more than slightly stronger than wood for its weight. A -25% weight reduction should not yield the same strength.

Opellulo · 01-12-2011, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Organism

Berzerk Bludgeon
A large hammer with multiple small spikes on one face and a single large one on the other.

Maul with spikes and pick.

Code:


 		Damage 		Reach 	Parry 	Cost 	Weight 	ST
Bludgeon	sw+6 cr 	1,2* 	0U	$182	12.5	13‡
 or		sw+4 imp	1,2*	0U	-	-	13‡

Bombaata is happy!

More fantasy wacky shining tools of destruction please!

01-11-2011, 09:08 AM	#1
Sam Baughn Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: United Kingdom of Great Britain and some other bits.	Some rather silly fantasy weapons made with the LTC2 rules... As an exercise in getting to grips with the weapon customisation rules in Low-Tech Companion 2 and to see if I could spot any especially overpowered options, I made a few fantasy weapons. Most of them probably wouldn't be practical in the real world, but due to quirks of the game rules, they turn out to be strangely effective. Stabby-smasher A four-foot long wooden haft topped with a four-foot metal spike, the two halves seperated by a flanged metal mace head. Mace with long handle, full-sized spearhead, very long spike. Code: Damage Reach Parry Cost Weight ST One-handed sw+4 cr 2 0U $155 9 14 or thr+2 imp 3 0U - - 14 Two-handed sw+5 cr 2 0U - - 13† or thr+3 imp 3 0U - - 13† Scorpion's Claw A short wooden haft mounting a large, hooked blade, a curved prong in front of that and a curved hand-guard projecting back along the haft below that. Sickle with prongs and added hilt. Code: Damage Reach Parry Cost Weight ST Slash sw cut 1 +1 $112.50 2.75 8 Stab sw imp 1 +1U - - 8 Hook thr-2 cut 1 +1U - - 8 Notes: +2 to Disarm, -1 to Holdout, can get stuck, can hook, -2 familiarity penalty. Berzerk Bludgeon A large hammer with multiple small spikes on one face and a single large one on the other. Maul with spikes and pick. Code: Damage Reach Parry Cost Weight ST Bludgeon sw+6 cr 1,2* 0U $182 12.5 13‡ or sw+4 imp 1,2* 0U - - 13‡ Ultimate Fighting Stick A wooden club with an extended 'S' shape, studded with metal spikes and a pronged cross-guard. Light Club with spikes, hook, added hilt and prongs. Code: Damage Reach Parry Cost Weight ST Stick sw+2 cr 1 +1 $132 3.75 10 or thr+2 cr 1 +1 - - 10 Notes: +2 to Disarm, -1 to Holdout, can hook, -2 familiarity penalty.

01-11-2011, 12:47 PM	#2
DemiBenson Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boston, Hub of the Universe!	Re: Some rather silly fantasy weapons made with the LTC2 rules... Hero's Heater An expensive medium shield with all the options, for the dungeon delver where budget is not a concern. All-Metal Heater Shield with Conical Boss, Disarming Spikes, Lance Cutout, Lantern Hook, and Rim Blade. Shield bashes for +1 crushing damage, disarms at +1, gives +1 to Lance skill, and can slash for swing-2 cutting damage. Code: TL Shield DB Cost Weight DR/HP Cover DR Notes 3 Hero's Heater 2 $553 14.25 4/19 8 Bravo's Buckler A modest buckler with enough blades to be used as offensive weaponry in its own right. All-Metal Parrying Buckler with Large Hiltless Knife, Long Spike Boss, and Disarming Spikes, and Rim Blade. Can attack with the knife at only -1, shield bashes for +1 impaling damage, disarms at +1, and can slash for swing-2 cutting damage. Code: TL Shield DB Cost Weight DR/HP Cover DR Notes 1 Bravo's Buckler 1 $395 10 4/16 8 +1 to Block __________________ Demi Benson Last edited by DemiBenson; 01-11-2011 at 03:11 PM.

01-11-2011, 03:02 PM	#3
DanHoward Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Maitland, NSW, Australia	Re: Some rather silly fantasy weapons made with the LTC2 rules... Laminated and all-metal are mutually exclusive. How can you have a laminated wood construction in a shield with no wood?

01-11-2011, 06:29 PM	#5
Ulzgoroth Join Date: Jul 2008	Re: Some rather silly fantasy weapons made with the LTC2 rules... Adding a hilt does seem a bit perverse, effectively offering a huge bonus to weapons for not already having a hilt in their stats. Makes a hilted off-hand parrying hatchet seem like a really useful thing to have. I guess for most of them it realistically wouldn't matter because you're using an attack with U parry, and possibly also one that makes the weapon unready. But there are exceptions, like the fighting stick. Other than that they don't seem too bad. Though using the Stabby-Smasher's long spear functionality with Axe/Mace skill seems off. As does using a 3-yard weapon one-handed. __________________ I don't know any 3e, so there is no chance that I am talking about 3e rules by accident.

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