[MA] Wrestling with Weapons - Page 2

Icelander · 12-08-2010, 10:58 PM

The Armed Grapple technique presumably allows a full range of grappling followups.

Do you use weapon skill to perform these*, do you continue to use your level of the Armed Grapple technique (meaning that it's useful for any grappling roll made with the weapon that's not explicitly another technique) or do you use a 'normal' grappling skill such as Wrestling or Judo?

Also, throwing people from locks. This option is described as being for Arm Locks, Finger Locks, Head Locks and Leg Locks. Weapons can be used to make Arm Locks, but not the other kinds of locks mentioned. But I cannot see any logical reason why it should not be possible to throw someone from a lock where you are using a weapon as lever, for example, around the neck. Certainly, if you can throw someone from an Arm Lock where you are using a weapon as a lever, you should be able to do it while holding him up by his neck with a weapon.

And while weapons cannot be used to make Head Locks, they can be used for Choke Holds. Now, I can see how some Choke Holds don't really offer a smooth transition into throwing people with their neck as the axis, but if someone were to establish an armed grapple explicitly with the intention of getting his foe into a position where he could throw him from it, what rule would one use?

Would one allow a throw from Choke Hold with a weapon? Or would one allow him to use Head Lock with the weapon and then follow it up with a throw? Or is there some reason I'm missing why it should be impossible to use Throws from Locks** with weapons?

I'm well aware that I'm the GM and can thus decide what I want. I'm looking for the most realistic answer.

*Takedowns, shoving people around, shifting grip, pin, etc.
**Other than from Arm Lock.

12-08-2010, 10:58 PM	#1
Icelander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Iceland*	[MA] Wrestling with Weapons The Armed Grapple technique presumably allows a full range of grappling followups. Do you use weapon skill to perform these, do you continue to use your level of the Armed Grapple technique (meaning that it's useful for any grappling roll made with the weapon that's not explicitly another technique) or do you use a 'normal' grappling skill such as Wrestling or Judo? Also, throwing people from locks. This option is described as being for Arm Locks, Finger Locks, Head Locks and Leg Locks. Weapons can be used to make Arm Locks, but not the other kinds of locks mentioned. But I cannot see any logical reason why it should not be possible to throw someone from a lock where you are using a weapon as lever, for example, around the neck. Certainly, if you can throw someone from an Arm Lock where you are using a weapon as a lever, you should be able to do it while holding him up by his neck with a weapon. And while weapons cannot be used to make Head Locks, they can be used for Choke Holds. Now, I can see how some Choke Holds don't really offer a smooth transition into throwing people with their neck as the axis, but if someone were to establish an armed grapple explicitly with the intention of getting his foe into a position where he could throw him from it, what rule would one use? Would one allow a throw from Choke Hold with a weapon? Or would one allow him to use Head Lock with the weapon and then follow it up with a throw? Or is there some reason I'm missing why it should be impossible to use Throws from Locks* with weapons? I'm well aware that I'm the GM and can thus decide what I want. I'm looking for the most realistic answer. Takedowns, shoving people around, shifting grip, pin, etc. *Other than from Arm Lock. __________________ Za uspiekh nashevo beznadiozhnovo diela!