Gun Safety Rules

Anders · 12-04-2010, 02:04 PM

Like those found here.

Would they be part of the Guns skill or would they be an SOP Perk (Power-Ups 2 p.15)?

rosignol · 12-04-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Asta Kask

Like those found here.

Would they be part of the Guns skill or would they be an SOP Perk (Power-Ups 2 p.15)?

Guns skill. Something very similar to those rules are included at the front of firearm instruction manuals sold in the US, along with state-specific warnings, and most firearm instructors will give a brief lecture summarizing those points before letting a new shooter touch a firearm.

Anders · 12-04-2010, 02:26 PM

OTOH, if you learn your skill from your time as a drug dealer, you will presumably not learn them. I'm leaning towards SOP myself, but I wanted to ask the hivemind.

HANS · 12-04-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Asta Kask

OTOH, if you learn your skill from your time as a drug dealer, you will presumably not learn them. I'm leaning towards SOP myself, but I wanted to ask the hivemind.

Definitely Guns. People who "learn" shooting as drug dealers almost invariably shoot at default skill.

Cheers

HANS

Crakkerjakk · 12-04-2010, 02:56 PM

Treat, never, keep, keep.

Definitely part of the Guns skill.

Anders · 12-04-2010, 03:09 PM

Would we have all the accidents if it was part of Guns skill?

~~combatmedic~~ · 12-06-2010, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HANS

Definitely Guns. People who "learn" shooting as drug dealers almost invariably shoot at default skill.

Cheers

HANS

Yes, like holding your pistol sideways.

PK · 12-06-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by combatmedic

Yes, like holding your pistol sideways.

Oh, Hans knows about that stuff, too. He covers "gangsta shooting," and many other boneheaded blunders, in Tactical Shooting. Full game effects, too, so the GM knows just what sort of penalty to assign to someone who thinks it's "gangsta" to limp-wrist a semiautomatic.

SuedodeuS · 12-04-2010, 04:28 PM

I'd say someone could learn how to shoot without being familiar with safety rules, and someone could just outright ignore some (or all) of them. The grand total of 1 time* I've actually fired a weapon, I noticed the other people - including a guy who had previously been in the military - tended to ignore the "finger off the trigger" bit (although they did keep the others in mind), despite them being better shots than me (so they probably weren't working off default).

Maybe call it a Quirk: Doesn't Follow Gun Safety, with the effect that you have an increased chance of accidental discharge. The Perk version (SOP: Gun Safety) would mean you essentially never have an accidental discharge.

*OK, technically I shot a crappy .22 that couldn't hit the broadside of a barn once when I was somewhere around 12 years old. I don't really count that, though.

Crakkerjakk · 12-04-2010, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Military personnel have negligent discharges all the time. Learning rules doesn't prevent 100% of accidents. You could have a shooters make an IQ-based Guns roll daily or weekly or somesuch, failure means a safety violation, critical failure is a negligent discharge. Laziness, Absent-Minded, and so on ought to penalize the roll as well as sleep deprivation and so on.

I knew a Marine who rested the muzzle of his M4 on his boot while he did a function check. And he forgot to take the mag out before doing so. Idiot.

12-04-2010, 02:04 PM	#1
Anders Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	Gun Safety Rules Like those found here. Would they be part of the Guns skill or would they be an SOP Perk (Power-Ups 2 p.15)? __________________ “When you arise in the morning think of what a privilege it is to be alive, to think, to enjoy, to love ...” Marcus Aurelius Author of Winged Folk. The GURPS Discord. Drop by and say hi!

12-04-2010, 02:26 PM	#3
Anders Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	Re: Gun Safety Rules OTOH, if you learn your skill from your time as a drug dealer, you will presumably not learn them. I'm leaning towards SOP myself, but I wanted to ask the hivemind. __________________ “When you arise in the morning think of what a privilege it is to be alive, to think, to enjoy, to love ...” Marcus Aurelius Author of Winged Folk. The GURPS Discord. Drop by and say hi!

12-04-2010, 02:56 PM	#5
Crakkerjakk "Gimme 18 minutes . . ." Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Albuquerque, NM	Re: Gun Safety Rules Treat, never, keep, keep. Definitely part of the Guns skill. __________________ My bare bones web page Semper Fi

12-04-2010, 03:09 PM	#6
Anders Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	Re: Gun Safety Rules Would we have all the accidents if it was part of Guns skill? __________________ “When you arise in the morning think of what a privilege it is to be alive, to think, to enjoy, to love ...” Marcus Aurelius Author of Winged Folk. The GURPS Discord. Drop by and say hi!

12-04-2010, 04:28 PM	#9
SuedodeuS Join Date: Sep 2008	Re: Gun Safety Rules I'd say someone could learn how to shoot without being familiar with safety rules, and someone could just outright ignore some (or all) of them. The grand total of 1 time* I've actually fired a weapon, I noticed the other people - including a guy who had previously been in the military - tended to ignore the "finger off the trigger" bit (although they did keep the others in mind), despite them being better shots than me (so they probably weren't working off default). Maybe call it a Quirk: Doesn't Follow Gun Safety, with the effect that you have an increased chance of accidental discharge. The Perk version (SOP: Gun Safety) would mean you essentially never have an accidental discharge. OK, technically I shot a crappy .22 that couldn't hit the broadside of a barn once when I was somewhere around 12 years old. I don't really count that, though. __________________ Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat.* Latin: Those whom a god wishes to destroy, he first drives mad.