Gun Safety Rules

[combatmedic]

Originally Posted by Crakkerjakk

I knew a Marine who rested the muzzle of his M4 on his boot while he did a function check. And he forgot to take the mag out before doing so. Idiot.

Wow, that's also very stupid.

I've seen a grand total of one negligent discharge. The soldier in question had her finger too near the trigger while holding her weapon in the low ready. I was about to speak when she suddenly fired a round into the dirt.She looked surprised. Dear Lord, but the poor Iraqi prisoners who were being moved past her freaked out!

Of course, every once in a while some nimrod pops a round into the clearing barrel. This has never occured in my presence, though.

[Ze'Manel Cunha]

Originally Posted by combatmedic

Of course, every once in a while some nimrod pops a round into the clearing barrel. This has never occured in my presence, though.

This one often has more to do with the idiotic Army clearing instructions than anything else.
Seriously, telling people to rack, rack and then pull the trigger without at the very least telling them to eyeball the chamber, or wiggle their pinkies in it first, is just asking for trouble.

[combatmedic]

Originally Posted by Ze'Manel Cunha

This one often has more to do with the idiotic Army clearing instructions than anything else.
Seriously, telling people to rack, rack and then pull the trigger without at the very least telling them to eyeball the chamber, or wiggle their pinkies in it first, is just asking for trouble.

I dunno which Army guys you were with, but if we'd cleared without eyeballing and fingering, we'd have been in deep doo doo. That was SOP in my unit.

[rosignol]

Originally Posted by SuedodeuS

Maybe call it a Quirk: Doesn't Follow Gun Safety, with the effect that you have an increased chance of accidental discharge.

ITYM "Incompetence: Guns"

Pretty much a non-starter as far as adventurers are concerned, but there are plenty of people who have it in real life.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by rosignol

ITYM "Incompetence: Guns"

Pretty much a non-starter as far as adventurers are concerned, but there are plenty of people who have it in real life.

But no-one who is at all a good shot has it in real life. Whereas there's no actual incompatibility between being able to shoot well and being utterly negligent of firearm safety. Which was the entire point.

[Anders]

A compromise? Knowledge of the Rules are part of the Guns skill. Being able to say to the GM at any time "No, because I follow the Rules" and smirk, and get away with it, requires a Perk.

[copeab]

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

A compromise? Knowledge of the Rules are part of the Guns skill. Being able to say to the GM at any time "No, because I follow the Rules" and smirk, and get away with it, requires a Perk.

It seems expensive to add something like that. As someone else said, easier to just consider it part of the Guns skill and most failures to be the results of disadvantages like Laziness, Absent-Mindedness, etc or a side effect of blown Will rolls (like a fright check).

[DouglasCole]

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

A compromise? Knowledge of the Rules are part of the Guns skill. Being able to say to the GM at any time "No, because I follow the Rules" and smirk, and get away with it, requires a Perk.

I believe "Pants Positive Safety, " which pretty much allows some pretty egregious behavior violating these rules, is a Gun Fu perk. SOP Gun Safety Fanatic seems perfectly acceptable to me, and between High Tech, Gun Fu, and the forthcoming Tactical Shooting, what that means for the characters (when you need a Ready action, when you need a DX or IQ based Guns roll to go from not violating rules to ready to shoot) should be pretty clear.

[jason taylor]

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

Like those found here.

Would they be part of the Guns skill or would they be an SOP Perk (Power-Ups 2 p.15)?

They also are some degree of CoH. Much of the purpose of the rules is to make people pay attention to what they are doing with their gun above and beyond the basic benefits of the rules themselves.

[combatmedic]

A Father's Advice


If a sportsman true you'd be
Listen carefully to me. . .

Never, never let your gun
Pointed be at anyone.
That it may unloaded be
Matters not the least to me.

When a hedge or fence you cross
Though of time it cause a loss
From your gun the cartridge take
For the greater safety's sake.

If twixt you and neighbouring gun
Bird shall fly or beast may run
Let this maxim ere be thine
"Follow not across the line."

Stops and beaters oft unseen
Lurk behind some leafy screen.
Calm and steady always be
"Never shoot where you can't see."


You may kill or you may miss
But at all times think this:
"All the pheasants ever bred
Won't repay for one man dead."

Mark Beaufoy - 1902