Quality affects weight?

[Christopher R. Rice]

Exactly what the title says, does a Higher Quality affect weight, I am pretty sure I saw this in Campaigns and it seems like it is also in GURPS Action 1 but only for certain things...

So if it does what items does the weight increase effect?

Also does lower quality equipment effect weight as well? Less? More?

Thanks for all those who answer, as always book citations as useful.

Ghostdancer

[Diomedes]

The only place I can think of equipment quality correlating to weight is in DF, where fine-quality armor is 75% weight.

[Flyndaran]

I would also think that high quality can increase weight like plastic vs. silver cutlery.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

I would also think that high quality can increase weight like plastic vs. silver cutlery.

When quality-related weight modifiers come up, they're almost invariably high quality weighs less, low quality weighs more. Because trimming weight is a form of quality improvement.

Of course, plastic vs. silver cutlery wouldn't be covered by quality modifiers as such. We've already got rules for making things out of silver vs plastic (for weapons, but treating a fork as a weapon shouldn't be too far wrong) which affect weight.

Some items have distinct entries for superior, heavier versions, but that's entirely case-by-case.

[DreadPirateLynx]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

When quality-related weight modifiers come up, they're almost invariably high quality weighs less, low quality weighs more. Because trimming weight is a form of quality improvement.

I agree with you on this in principal, but doesn't decreasing an item's weight in GURPS make it easier to break generally?

I suppose higher quality items do typically need to be maintained more religiously, but I would expect a low quality sword to break sooner than a fine one.

Of course if I'm remembering this incorrectly my whole point is moot.

[Edges]

Originally Posted by DreadPirateLynx

I agree with you on this in principal, but doesn't decreasing an item's weight in GURPS make it easier to break generally?

I suppose higher quality items do typically need to be maintained more religiously, but I would expect a low quality sword to break sooner than a fine one.

Of course if I'm remembering this incorrectly my whole point is moot.

A low quality object may have more HP (if it's heavier) but its HT will be higher.

[Peter Knutsen]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

When quality-related weight modifiers come up, they're almost invariably high quality weighs less, low quality weighs more. Because trimming weight is a form of quality improvement.

The most important area is adventuring gear, for scouts, explorers, soldiers, "arheologists", spies, and so forth, and there it is an obvious advantage for gear to weigh less, so higher-quality gear, or at least one flavour of higher quality, has lower mass, or lower volume (or can fold into a smaller volume when not in use), or both.

[roguebfl]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

I would also think that high quality can increase weight like plastic vs. silver cutlery.

That's not in increase in quality, that is an ordination change. now disposable plastic to durable would be a quality increase but that more that reduction from base