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Old 07-08-2010, 04:59 PM   #1
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Default Re: [Perks] No critical failure?

Note that if you apply No nuisance roll to combat, it wouldn't just avoid critical misses, it would also negate any chance of failure when effective skill is 16+ (on the other hand, critical successes are far more likely than critical misses at those skill levels).

To answer the OP question, one could conceive a "No critical miss" Perk for combat, that allows you to attempt a skill roll at -10 to avoid the consequences of critical failures after you roll one - turning it into an ordinary failure. Specialized by skill.
I like this option because it doesn't make critical misses in combat impossible, only less and less likely the more expert you are.
If you feel it's still too powerful, you can worsen the penalty to -15 or whatever number you find balanced.

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I seem to recall this coming up before. Somebody (Kromm?) broke it down and it turned out to be a surprisingly expensive advantage.

Or I could be thinking of something else. Have you attempted a search?
Kromm wasn't involved, but I found this topic:
http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread...533#post813533

It discusses Immunity to ALL critical failures, though.
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:54 AM   #2
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Default Re: [Perks] No critical failure?

I don't think you need to spend that many points.

I think it would be sufficient to build it something like this:

Ridiculous Luck (Critical Failures only -10%; Effective Skill must be 16 or greater -10%; Own skill rolls only -20%) [36]

This isn't much different than what you are looking for. Once per 10 minutes you can reroll a critical failure on a skill roll, as long as your effective skill is at least 16 (i.e. if you make a Deceptive Attack that brings your effective skill down to 12, it won't help you). If you're playing with multiple people, you're quite unlikely to ever roll more than one critical failure in 10 minutes. As built, this won't help you with any Attribute rolls, or force enemies to reroll Critical Hits against you. Similar to Defensive, but more restrictive.

It's definitely more expensive than a Perk, but what you've asked for is worth a lot more than a Perk.

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Old 07-09-2010, 09:30 AM   #3
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Default Re: [Perks] No critical failure?

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Extraordinary Luck (Critical Failures only -10%; Effective Skill must be 16 or greater -10%; Own skill rolls only -20%) [36]
To pick a nit, you mean Ridiculous Luck, not Extraordinary.
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Old 07-09-2010, 09:37 AM   #4
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To pick a nit, you mean Ridiculous Luck, not Extraordinary.
Ummmm....oops?
(I'll edit the original)
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Old 07-09-2010, 02:07 PM   #5
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Ridiculous Luck (Critical Failures only -10%; Effective Skill must be 16 or greater -10%; Own skill rolls only -20%) [36]
Critical Failures only could be -20% perhaps... it's significantly less useful than full Luck.

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If you're playing with multiple people, you're quite unlikely to ever roll more than one critical failure in 10 minutes.
You're definitely right!

Even 30pts Luck (granting 1 reroll per half-hour) will save you from most critical failures.
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