Death by advantage

Anders · 05-01-2010, 01:43 PM

The rules for Permeation (p.B75) say that the user is affected by gravity. Does this mean that someone with Permeation (stone) who activates it while standing on bedrock will sink to the center of the Earth? With presumably dire consequences?

Nosforontu · 05-01-2010, 01:49 PM

Not likely as written instead that line seems to simply let you know that you cant fly with power or do things like permeate with a waterfall at the base of the waterfall and "permeate up" against the current and drop of for instance.

Anders · 05-01-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nosforontu

Not likely as written instead that line seems to simply let you know that you cant fly with power or do things like permeate with a waterfall at the base of the waterfall and "permeate up" against the current and drop of for instance.

It's a good interpretation, but I think mine is just as valid. And I don't want to charge a person 40 points for an advantage that kills him the first time he tries to use it... my players would not be pleased... :)

Tommi_Kovala · 05-01-2010, 02:15 PM

Maybe it's a sort of magical intangibility. Kind of like the Star Trek episode where two characters got turned invisible and immaterial because of a Romulan Mcguffin. In scenes shot from their perspective, they could permeate through bulkheads, doors and people… but they could still walk along the corridors.

Refplace · 05-01-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommi_Kovala

Maybe it's a sort of magical intangibility. Kind of like the Star Trek episode where two characters got turned invisible and immaterial because of a Romulan Mcguffin. In scenes shot from their perspective, they could permeate through bulkheads, doors and people… but they could still walk along the corridors.

Yep, I have always run it that way. Just like with intangibility not letting you fly it also doesn't mean you sink into the earth and cant get back.

Anders · 05-01-2010, 02:33 PM

Well, RAW says he just removed the ability of stone to support him against gravity, and he's still affected by gravity. That's bad news.

David Johnston2 · 05-01-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Asta Kask

The rules for Permeation (p.B75) say that the user is affected by gravity. Does this mean that someone with Permeation (stone) who activates it while standing on bedrock will sink to the center of the Earth? With presumably dire consequences?

No, that's not what it means. The user is affected by gravity the same way someone in water is affected by gravity. He can swim down, or swim up.

lexington · 05-01-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Asta Kask

Well, RAW says he just removed the ability of stone to support him against gravity, and he's still affected by gravity. That's bad news.

Actually RAW say "you can move through a substance as if it wasn't there". Just assume that people have a bit of find control over it so they act as though they have Walk on Air while permeating.

jeff_wilson · 05-01-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Asta Kask

Well, RAW says he just removed the ability of stone to support him against gravity, and he's still affected by gravity. That's bad news.

I see there are still a few trolls in Sweden.

"You are affected by gravity, and you are limited to normal movement;
if you lack Flight or another movement advantage, you must walk at your Basic Move."

It would be rather problematic to walk at your Basic Move if you had plummeted to your death.

jeff_wilson · 05-01-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Refplace

Yep, I have always run it that way. Just like with intangibility not letting you fly it also doesn't mean you sink into the earth and cant get back.

What is it with people not reading the books they presumably paid good money for?

"You can become intangible, passing through solid objects as though
they weren’t there. In this state, gravity does not affect you – you can move
in any direction at full Move (and make no noise when you move)."

It's not particularly fast flying, but it lets you fly.

05-01-2010, 01:43 PM	#1
Anders Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	Death by advantage The rules for Permeation (p.B75) say that the user is affected by gravity. Does this mean that someone with Permeation (stone) who activates it while standing on bedrock will sink to the center of the Earth? With presumably dire consequences? __________________ “When you arise in the morning think of what a privilege it is to be alive, to think, to enjoy, to love ...” Marcus Aurelius Author of Winged Folk. The GURPS Discord. Drop by and say hi!

05-01-2010, 01:49 PM	#2
Nosforontu Join Date: Sep 2004	Re: Death by advantage Not likely as written instead that line seems to simply let you know that you cant fly with power or do things like permeate with a waterfall at the base of the waterfall and "permeate up" against the current and drop of for instance.

05-01-2010, 02:15 PM	#4
Tommi_Kovala Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Helsinki, Finland	Re: Death by advantage Maybe it's a sort of magical intangibility. Kind of like the Star Trek episode where two characters got turned invisible and immaterial because of a Romulan Mcguffin. In scenes shot from their perspective, they could permeate through bulkheads, doors and people… but they could still walk along the corridors. __________________ Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced

05-01-2010, 02:33 PM	#6
Anders Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	Re: Death by advantage Well, RAW says he just removed the ability of stone to support him against gravity, and he's still affected by gravity. That's bad news. __________________ “When you arise in the morning think of what a privilege it is to be alive, to think, to enjoy, to love ...” Marcus Aurelius Author of Winged Folk. The GURPS Discord. Drop by and say hi!