What 4e Vehicles .pdfs do people want to see?

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Figleaf23

Just give me the design system.

Again, there is no secret design system. I'm sure Mark intends to do this with good solid research alone (as all existing 4e vehicle stats have been thus far). You already have that design system.

[Langy]

sir pudding, there is a design system. It's called GURPS Vehicle Design System, and David Pulver is in the process of writing it (again:/).

Yes, you can make up stats for 4e vehicles without actually having a vehicle design system, but a VDS will certainly help with figuring out things like vehicle HT, Hnd/SR, DR, etc The stuff that's not completely obvious from looking at the real world statistics, in other words.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Langy

sir pudding, there is a design system. It's called GURPS Vehicle Design System, and David Pulver is in the process of writing it (again:/).

I don't think (and perhaps I'm wrong) that Mark is talking about using any unpublished system here. Certainly no such system was used in any 4th edition book thus far.

[Langy]

So? What does that have to do with someone else wanting a design system?

[Mgellis]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

I don't think (and perhaps I'm wrong) that Mark is talking about using any unpublished system here. Certainly no such system was used in any 4th edition book thus far.

Exactly. I have no intention of trying to create a vehicle design system. I do intend to...

1) Cheerfully use public domain information about real vehicles and convert that into GURPS terms.

2) Cheerfully rely on the various existing vehicle design systems to figure out things that aren't clear and then convert them over to 4e GURPS.

3) Cheerfully lie about everything else and pretend I know what I'm talking about! ("See here, young man. I think I know a bit about engineering. I teach engineers!" I will, of course, leave out the fact that what I'm teaching them about is Jane Austen...)*

The closest I'm coming to "designing a design system" is things like "hmmm...one way to design an SM+2 mecha would be to take an SM+0 battlesuit and scale it up using the scale in Spaceships...it will mass and cost ten times as much and its armor will be twice as thick as the suit in Ultra-Tech...ah, yes, Wile E. Coyote, super genius..."

*Later edit...in fairness, Jane Austen may have known a bit about vehicles. Two of her brothers, I think, were admirals in the British Navy.

[nik1979]

Vehicles that can survive an Apocalypse as one category.

[Figleaf23]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Again, there is no secret design system. I'm sure Mark intends to do this with good solid research alone (as all existing 4e vehicle stats have been thus far). You already have that design system.

Then I want a MUCH more user-friendly system.

[Celtillos]

I'd like to see Municipal & Construction Vehicles...Fire Trucks, Ambulances, Cranes, Backhoes, Front End Loaders, Cherry Pickers, Bulldozers, and so on.

Also, Farm Vehicles and Equipment.

[Kale]

Originally Posted by Celtillos

I'd like to see Municipal & Construction Vehicles...Fire Trucks, Ambulances, Cranes, Backhoes, Front End Loaders, Cherry Pickers, Bulldozers, and so on.

It must include stats for Bobcat mini tractors/loaders. Those things are great! Also, a PC with one of those could do a lot of damage, and its small enough that it could be squeezed into many buildings (it will fit through a double door...)

[Evil Roy Slade]

Originally Posted by Kale

(it will fit through a double door...)

You sound like you know whereof you speak.