Friendly monsters (once again)

[Knosos]

Yes, I know there are a lot of threads talking about friendly monsters. I've read a lot of them, but I'm still a little bit confused. So I've done these groups for better understanding it:

Group A) Never fight you under certain circumstances.

• Amazon: with females.
• Lawyers: with thieves.
• Psycho Squirrel: with females or wearers of the spiked codpiece.
• Fowl Fiend: if you have a chicken on your head

Group B) Always flee under certain circumstances:

• Plague Rats: from Orcs.
• Bipolar Bear: with an odd number

Group D) Allows you to do something in order to not fight the monster. You can do this at any time (even if ou are in combat).

• Floating Nose: for 200 GP
• Crawling Hand: for a Wishing Ring
• Owl Bare: only wizards
• Wannabe Vampire: only clerics
• Used Steed Salesman: for 3 cards

Group E) Others

• E-1) Stoned Golem (with Non-Halflings): It could be in "Group A", but if you want, you can fight it. It could also be in "Group D", but if you decide to fight it, you can't go back.
• E-2) Pack Rat (if you have no Items in play): It could be in "Group A", but if you want, you can fight it.
• E-3) Bobble Head (with Elves): I think it's very similar to the Amazon (with females), but a female can help in a combat against an Amazon, and an Elf can't help in a combat against a Bubble Head.

My general question.
a) Which of this groups/monsters are friendly?. I assume that if a friendly Monster is the only Monster I'm facing, I may Loot the Room as if I hadn't faced a Monster at all.

Some related questions:
b) If I'm facing multiple monsters, when can I take Treasure of the Plague Rats (if I'm an Orc), the present of the Pack Rat (If I have no Items in play), or the present of the Fowl Fiend (if I have a chicken on my head)?
c) I'm an Elf, I open a door and I found the Booble Head. Can I play a cards (Magic Lamp, Dead, or similar) to remove the Monster from the combat without fighting it?

Thanks

[bonetm]

Originally Posted by Knosos

[*]E-1) Stoned Golem (with Non-Halflings): It could be in "Group A", but if you want, you can fight it. It could also be in "Group D", but if you decide to fight it, you can't go back.

This is incorrect. You can choose not to fight it at any time.

[Nixel]

a) Which of this groups/monsters are friendly?. I assume that if a friendly Monster is the only Monster I'm facing, I may Loot the Room as if I hadn't faced a Monster at all.

No, despite it being friendly, you don't get to loot the room. (Or at least as far as I understand it)

b) If I'm facing multiple monsters, when can I take Treasure of the Plague Rats (if I'm an Orc), the present of the Pack Rat (If I have no Items in play), or the present of the Fowl Fiend (if I have a chicken on my head)?

Good question. Each card may have a different wording, and may be handled different, and I can't think of how these should be resolved without looking at the cards and their specific wording again myself. (I think I can remember what the Fowl Fiend and Pack Rat are worded as, but would need another look)

c) I'm an Elf, I open a door and I found the Booble Head. Can I play a cards (Magic Lamp, Dead, or similar) to remove the Monster from the combat without fighting it?

Bobble head no. If you are an elf, it simply is discarded. Since as soon as you're and elf and it's in the combat, it is discarded.

[RL]

Originally Posted by Nixel

No, despite it being friendly, you don't get to loot the room. (Or at least as far as I understand it)

That's not quite correct. Here's the applicable quote from the rules (emphasis added): "If you did not meet a monster, or you met a friendly monster, you search the room . . . draw a second card from the Door deck, face down, and place it in your hand."

[Nixel]

Originally Posted by Chad Cloman

That's not quite correct. Here's the applicable quote from the rules (emphasis added): "If you did not meet a monster, or you met a friendly monster, you search the room . . . draw a second card from the Door deck, face down, and place it in your hand."

Totally missed that, either this in such a way, or we've been doing it wrong.

Though that makes it seem if the monster is friendly, gives you treasure, you also get a face down door?

[Cheese8242]

Originally Posted by Nixel

Totally missed that, either this in such a way, or we've been doing it wrong.

Though that makes it seem if the monster is friendly, gives you treasure, you also get a face down door?

If the monster is friendly and gives you treasure, i.e. the Amazon towards females. You then have the option to either take a face down door or look for trouble.

[MunchkinMan]

Originally Posted by Cheese8242

If the monster is friendly and gives you treasure, i.e. the Amazon towards females. You then have the option to either take a face down door or look for trouble.

Since when? If you faced a "friendly" Monster, you are allowed to Loot The Room as if you had not faced a Monster, but by no means are you allowed to Look For Trouble.

[Cheese8242]

Originally Posted by MunchkinMan

Since when? If you faced a "friendly" Monster, you are allowed to Loot The Room as if you had not faced a Monster, but by no means are you allowed to Look For Trouble.

I thought looking for trouble was part of the "loot the room" phase. Well then I stand corrected.

[mawile]

i don't owe all those cards, it's quiet few sets translated in Russia, but as i remember, friendly monsters are those, that don't fight you from the very begining (an Amazon for example), but if a monster is greedy (as Floating Nose) or too "lazy" (as Stoned Giant), it is not counted as friendly... you have to go away before he changes his mind and don't have time to loot the room.
so it seems only group A which is friendly...
though i'm not really sure, i'm correct.

[WmTiger86]

I'd like to add to the question here. If a monster won't pursue you because you're not a high enough level, does that also make it friendly or do you just run away from it and automatically succeed?