multiple damage, weapon master and other weirdness - Page 2

vitruvian · 04-13-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Icelander

That's what I thought.

Punches and kicks appear on the Muscle-Powered Weapons tables and they are clearly powered by muscles.

It causes me cognative dissonance that someone could have half penalty on Rapid Strikes and Parries if he wore a gauntlet or brass knuckles, but not if his knuckles were bare.

Exactly. I don't think the damage bonuses should stack, although those for, say, Brawling might improve. That would be a monstrous munchkin point crock. But the reduced penalties? Yeah, those should apply in either condition.

Tyneras · 04-13-2011, 04:54 PM

A better solution would have been to turn the fighting skills (Brawling, Wrestling, Boxing, Judo, etc.) into generic striking and grappling skills with no bonus damage for high skill, and give the bonus damage to Trained by a Master. Maybe combine Weapon Master and Trained by a Master into a single advantage (Combat Master? Melee Master?) and just make them specializations of that.

But we play with the RPG we have, not the RPG we want. Unless you houserule it. ;)

vitruvian · 04-13-2011, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sikker

Weapon Master clearly says:
"You have a high degree of training or unnerving talent with a particular class of muscle-powered weapons". So yes only weapons and not karate or wrestling.
For those things you should take Trained By A Master.

Fists and feet and elbows and knees are natural weapons, and I don't see where they're powered by anything other than muscles, so I'm not too sure.

weby · 05-31-2009, 09:06 AM

Dice of damage with multiplier: B378 "High-damage attacks may express
damage as a number of dice with a multiplier."

This is so that you do not need to roll dozens of dice.. and the bell curve of way too many dice is also very flat

By RAW you need a weapon for weapon master to work.

oGRE3 · 05-31-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by weby

Dice of damage with multiplier: B378 "High-damage attacks may express
damage as a number of dice with a multiplier."

ooooooook, so this is only a simple method to avoid launching bucklets load of dice.
thanks a lot.

sikker · 05-31-2009, 09:22 AM

Well, this is only RAW (as Weby says).
If you can convince your GM otherwise, then you can take weapons master (karate).

04-13-2011, 04:54 PM	#2
Tyneras Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kentucky, USA	Re: multiple damage, weapon master and other weirdness A better solution would have been to turn the fighting skills (Brawling, Wrestling, Boxing, Judo, etc.) into generic striking and grappling skills with no bonus damage for high skill, and give the bonus damage to Trained by a Master. Maybe combine Weapon Master and Trained by a Master into a single advantage (Combat Master? Melee Master?) and just make them specializations of that. But we play with the RPG we have, not the RPG we want. Unless you houserule it. ;)

05-31-2009, 09:06 AM	#4
weby Join Date: Oct 2008	Re: multiple damage, weapon master and other weirdness Dice of damage with multiplier: B378 "High-damage attacks may express damage as a number of dice with a multiplier." This is so that you do not need to roll dozens of dice.. and the bell curve of way too many dice is also very flat By RAW you need a weapon for weapon master to work.

05-31-2009, 09:22 AM	#6
sikker Join Date: Apr 2009	Re: multiple damage, weapon master and other weirdness Well, this is only RAW (as Weby says). If you can convince your GM otherwise, then you can take weapons master (karate).