Brawling parry w/ weapon

[Gef]

If you use a weapon like a tonfa or bladed hand with Brawling, do you still take a -3 to parry weapons and risk injury?

GEF

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by Gef

If you use a weapon like a tonfa or bladed hand with Brawling, do you still take a -3 to parry weapons and risk injury?

GEF

I'm pretty sure you don't. You're using a a part of the weapon that covers your body parts. So it's the tonfa shaft that contacts the weapon and not your forearm.

Fred Brackin

[Kromm]

The -3 to parry weapons is a property of the skill, so it still applies.

The chance of injury is a property of being bare-handed, so it doesn't.

[Gef]

Originally Posted by Kromm

The -3 to parry weapons is a property of the skill, so it still applies.

The chance of injury is a property of being bare-handed, so it doesn't.

Thanks. Looks like my barbarian "wolf warriors" will have a technique for parrying with the special drawback Requires Bladed Hand.

GEF

[Peter V. Dell'Orto]

Originally Posted by Gef

Thanks. Looks like my barbarian "wolf warriors" will have a technique for parrying with the special drawback Requires Bladed Hand.

Be careful how you apply that logic. Right now, if you have Brawling and a Bladed Hand and parry a weapon, it's Brawling-3. If you make a technique called Parry with Bladed Hand and give it the "drawback" of Requires Bladed Hand, that's Brawling Parry-3, +1 for the special drawback, equals Brawling Parry-2. For 0 points...by default, you've just said "anyone who parries with Brawling using a Bladed Hand parries at -2, not -3."

See what I mean? How is that a valid drawback since people already using Brawling plus a Bladed Hand parry at -3? In order to try it now, they already have that bladed hand, and don't get a free +1 to defend from it just because you named it as a special technique. It's probably a valid drawback but balanced by the additional -1 for "Defender isn't hurt on an unarmed parry" - a feature of parrying with a tonfa or bladed hand using Brawling - and nets to out to a change of 0, so they'd parry at Brawling-3, and have to buy that up.

[Gef]

Good point. Maybe I'll make that, requires Consecrated wolf claw. Or just have 'em buy it up from -3. Thing is, they wouldn't necessarily need the claw for that, right? They could buy "Improved Brawling Parry" and use it bare-handed, with the claw, or with a tonfa, right? The wolf claw parry I'm looking for would be more limited but get no discount.