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Old 04-28-2023, 02:14 PM   #1
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Default Point costs to “Immunity to Diabetes” & “Immunity to HIV/AIDS”

Is it like “Immunity to Cancers [5]” or more or less?

Also, any IW parachronic traveler who gets their hands on Cyberworld’s vaccine to HIV/AIDS could make big money?
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Old 04-28-2023, 02:35 PM   #2
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I'm not sure that "Immunity to Diabetes" is a thing. Diabetes seems to be partly genetic, and "immunity to genetic problems" isn't a GURPS advantage (though you could take Taboo Trait: genetic problems as a feature, and therefore you could take Taboo Trait: genetic predisposition to diabetes as a feature); and partly a product of lifestyle, and pathological conditions that result from harmful lifestyles aren't usually thought of as something you can be immune to.

But if it is a thing, I might be inclined to say full Immunity is just a 1-point perk. It isn't going to have much effect on play; even characters who have diabetes won't necessarily be hindered in play by it (unless they're specifically designed to have problems based on it), and I don't see a character's archnemesis attacking them by inflicting an unhealthy diet on them as a way of putting them at risk for diabetes.
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Old 04-28-2023, 02:56 PM   #3
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I'm not sure that "Immunity to Diabetes" is a thing. Diabetes seems to be partly genetic, and "immunity to genetic problems" isn't a GURPS advantage (though you could take Taboo Trait: genetic problems as a feature, and therefore you could take Taboo Trait: genetic predisposition to diabetes as a feature); and partly a product of lifestyle, and pathological conditions that result from harmful lifestyles aren't usually thought of as something you can be immune to.

But if it is a thing, I might be inclined to say full Immunity is just a 1-point perk. It isn't going to have much effect on play; even characters who have diabetes won't necessarily be hindered in play by it (unless they're specifically designed to have problems based on it), and I don't see a character's archnemesis attacking them by inflicting an unhealthy diet on them as a way of putting them at risk for diabetes.
A lot of this is for setting colour & info on the varieties of Non-baseline people living in it.
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Old 04-28-2023, 03:00 PM   #4
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Unless you have mechanics in your game which cause people to develop diabetes, immunity to diabetes doesn't have meaning.
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A lot of this is for setting colour & info on the varieties of Non-baseline people living in it.
Setting color info doesn't need character points.
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Old 04-28-2023, 03:05 PM   #5
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Setting color info doesn't need character points.
The varieties of people have templates to flesh things out and I like providing players with choices.
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Old 04-28-2023, 03:11 PM   #6
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The varieties of people have templates to flesh things out and I like providing players with choices.
Let me narrow it down, then: if the only thing a trait does is give setting color, it does not cost points. If it interacts with points at all, it would be as a quirk, and immunity to diabetes certainly isn't a quirk.
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Old 04-28-2023, 04:58 PM   #7
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I'm not sure that "Immunity to Diabetes" is a thing
Can diabetes even exist in animals who have the gene that turns glucose into vitamin C turned on?
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Old 04-28-2023, 06:26 PM   #8
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Default Re: Point costs to “Immunity to Diabetes” & “Immunity to HIV/AIDS”

Yeah, my vote's for zero. I was diagnosed with diabetes over a decade ago -- and diagnosed a likely candidate for it a decade before that. While I've had long term effects, such as worsening eyesight, slower healing and gradually increasing neuropathy in my feet, I can't say that I've suffered from anything worth as much as -5 worth of disad. * Over the course of my lifetime, sure, I'd have paid a point for Immunity to Diabetes, but I'd have paid a good bit more to have robust knees, which have been bothering the eff out of me for decades, or Immunity to Fibromyalgia, which has plagued me for twenty years.

In the timeframe of an average adventurer? No.


* Granted, I'm a type II. Type I is obviously considerably more serious, and disad worthy.
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Old 04-29-2023, 12:53 AM   #9
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Default Re: Point costs to “Immunity to Diabetes” & “Immunity to HIV/AIDS”

I don't think immunity to diabetes would really apply in a game. It's not really something that a PC is at risk of randomly catching. It's more like the opposite is what would be stat-able. IE , Susceptible (Diabetes).
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Old 04-29-2023, 04:06 AM   #10
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I'd make Immunity to Diabetes a Feature, you don't really contract diabetes.

Immunity to HIV would be a Perk in most campaigns I'd run, if relevant. I guess if we were playing 1980s Sex Workers then I would probably up it to [5].
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