Spell Level Clarification

[Barmace]

A Creation Spell for a given area includes all the spells
of the same type for lesser areas. For instance, a wizard
who knows 3-Hex Fire is also assumed to know the one-hex
Fire spell, at no extra IQ cost. A wizard with 7-Hex Illusion
automatically knows 4-Hex Illusion and Illusion . . . and so
on.


Does that mean that when they reach the next level spell that it is for free?

[tomc]

Originally Posted by Barmace

A Creation Spell for a given area includes all the spells
of the same type for lesser areas. For instance, a wizard
who knows 3-Hex Fire is also assumed to know the one-hex
Fire spell, at no extra IQ cost. A wizard with 7-Hex Illusion
automatically knows 4-Hex Illusion and Illusion . . . and so
on.


Does that mean that when they reach the next level spell that it is for free?

That's how I've always played it.

[Shostak]

Originally Posted by Barmace

Does that mean that when they reach the next level spell that it is for free?

I think that is up to the interpretation of the GM. In my games, I prefer to have things work according to the example of the new Staff spells, which have lesser versions of a spell be prerequisites for the greater ones.

[TippetsTX]

I think the general guidance has been that the wizard must still pay 500 XP to unlock the higher-IQ version of the spell. Purchasing one of the multi-hex versions at character creation provides a definite advantage, then.

[Chris Rice]

I always played that if you bought a creation spell at a certain level, then you automatically knew all the spells at lower levels. If you wanted the next level up then you bought that like any other spell.

[Axly Suregrip]

I like Barmace's and Tomc's take on this. We have not played it that way, but it makes sense. I think we will be adding this interpretation to our games.

[Kieddicus]

I've always dropped that rule, and treated the different sizes as completely different spells.

[hcobb]

Inclusion of the lesser area creation spells in the larger version was explicitly noted in first edition. (First edition Advanced Wizard page 4)
(Where memory points were much more costly.)

[JohnPaulB]

Originally Posted by Barmace

A Creation Spell for a given area includes all the spells
of the same type for lesser areas. For instance, a wizard
who knows 3-Hex Fire is also assumed to know the one-hex
Fire spell, at no extra IQ cost. A wizard with 7-Hex Illusion
automatically knows 4-Hex Illusion and Illusion . . . and so
on.


Does that mean that when they reach the next level spell that it is for free?

Fire spell ITL p 19
A wizard may also use this spell to produce controlled fire in his own or an adjacent hex. He could light his own cigar, a friend’s torch, or an enemy’s beard.

Thus, someone who knows 7 hex fire can control it down to 3 hexes or just light that cigar. Edit: This sentence and the one below are my conclusions from the quote above.

As far as working your way up the Fire Hex Chart, if you already know 3 hex fire and buy 7 hex fire, well you can light one to seven hexes.

However, I would consider the lower Fire Hex spells to be pre-requisites for the bigger ones. So you'd have to buy 3 hex fire also to buy 7 hex fire on character creation.

[Zimzerveran]

So, is there an official ruling on this for the Legacy Edition? I might be conflating this with Gurps magic, which has prerequisites you must pay for.

So, must I buy 3-Hex Fire and then buy 7-Hex fire at character creation if I want to start with 7-Hex Fire?

What about Staff? Do I buy Staff I, II, and III and then buy IV?

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