Technique for Acting/Disguise to pass as opposite gender

[Ulzgoroth]

I'd question whether the likely consequence of failing a gender role performance check would actually be people re-assessing their estimate of your sex as opposed to simply reacting negatively to you apparently being bad at your gender.

[Kromm]

Failure results are a whole other kettle of monkeys. I'd almost be tempted to come up with a table of random consequences.

[Rupert]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

I'd question whether the likely consequence of failing a gender role performance check would actually be people re-assessing their estimate of your sex as opposed to simply reacting negatively to you apparently being bad at your gender.

That would depend on whether it was a failed Disguise check or Acting check, whether the character had any sort of androgynous appearance or perk, or the opposite, how out of the normal range of height and build for the sex they're trying to pass as they are, and so on.

Also, there's the matter of who you failed against. Someone from a culture where this sort of thing would be considered ridiculous is probably just going to write it off as a lack of manner or bad upbringing. A culture where there's a strong awareness of cross-dressing and people trying to pass might consider that first instead.

"It depends"

[Plane]

*finds "Unwelcome Accessory" on pg 13 of PU6: Quirks*
"you cannot control or (easily) remove"
"occasionally interferes with your actions"
"shouldn’t be potentially lethal"
"article that enemies could use against you"

It's weird how normal maleness can't qualify for that as being built-in

"embarassingly large sex toy that you cannot conceal" is actually present as an example too.

I think there's negligible difference between a literal toy an the real thing if all we're talking about is a distracting "tent" silhouette

I think it's certainly unwanted in times of wanting to masquerade as a female.

Originally Posted by Kromm

On the positive side, Easily Mistaken Sex (Quirks, p. 14) – the disadvantageous version of Androgynous – provides a mere +1 to pass as the other sex.

re the "ignore your Appearance bonus and react at -1" situation

how would this work for the "very handsome" woman in the example (+6 to androphiles / +2 to gynephiles) would she be at -1, or +2-1=+1?

Also wondering, with the bonus EMS gets to Fast Talk / Acting / Disguise to convince someone they're the one they resemble...

What sort of roll would they make to convince someone they're the ACTUAL one?

Or non-EMS for that matter trying to convince of who they really are vs what they aren't?

Originally Posted by Kromm

changing your apparent sex is Disguise-0 with the Androgynous perk
most people roll at Disguise-1 to play at belonging

Should this mean that Cross-Dressing as a Technique for Disguise ought to be Hard (2 points to buy off the -1) ? Otherwise it would just be cheaper to put 1 point in the tech instead of buying the Androgynous perk to improve your skill.

Originally Posted by Kromm

High Appearance doesn't necessarily mean anything as serious as even Classic Features (Macho Man/Girly Girl) or Extreme Sexual Dimorphism; it just means nice aesthetics, which may well reflect a delicate balance rather than extremes for your sex.

However whatever subtle thing it is, it's a different type of thing based on gender shapes I think? Otherwise it's hard to explain different bonuses on some targets.

Originally Posted by Kromm

You can have Very Beautiful/Handsome and not have a particularly interesting body or unusual hormone levels,
just really amazing symmetry that brings you close to the "ideal woman" or "ideal man" in your culture.

Symmetry seems like some "overall attractiveness" type thing, like maybe represented by the 1st +1 which isn't different amounts for different orientations.

Maybe even up to the non-statted "double attractive" which would be +2 to everyone.

Past then, there's got to be more than symmetry I would figure since it stays at +2 for one group and goes beyond for the other.

[acrosome]

Well, Heck... I suppose that I now have the Word Of Kromm on the issue. All is noted, and I will provide an appropriate cite in my manuscript. :)