Attacking giants

[MikMod]

Originally Posted by Axly Suregrip

In Wizard rules, hero falls into an adjacent hex. This is awesome for the giant to get the +4 DX and pound them with his 3+3 club.

OMG this is truly awesome. Had never seen this, coming from ITL down so to speak. I think this makes much more sense and gives multihex creatures a proper scary advantage. Thank you so much! My players are gonna love this ;P

[hcobb]

It would be much more effective if falling cost the next action and the action after that was spent on standing up.

I guess I'll make another video with humans being trampled instead of trampling those smaller than them, unless anybody with a better voice doesn't want to do it?

[Axly Suregrip]

If the hero pushed over was heavily armored, the giant may get his action before the hero stands up.

[machineghost]

If you're doing a campaign with a lot of giant fights (eg. an Attack on Titan campaign), there's a great Pyramid article in #3/77 where Sean Punch offers some extended rules for fighting large opponents.

[Skarg]

Originally Posted by machineghost

If you're doing a campaign with a lot of giant fights (eg. an Attack on Titan campaign), there's a great Pyramid article in #3/77 where Sean Punch offers some extended rules for fighting large opponents.

Yes, though for GURPS.

[Shostak]

Originally Posted by Axly Suregrip

If the hero pushed over was heavily armored, the giant may get his action before the hero stands up.

According to LE rules, a figure stands at the end of the turn, after all actions (this is different from the rules in Advanced Melee from the 1980s-. So, heavily armored or not, the pushed-over hero is going to have to hope the giant misses his +4 attack.

[Bill_in_IN]

Originally Posted by Skarg

Yes, though for GURPS.

I always viewed GURPS as TFT 2.0. I had the game info but, it just didn't catch on in my group that was deeply entrenched into TFT. Since TFT went out of print in the mid-80's, I used to borrow some of the GURPS material for adventures and battles in TFT.

[phiwum]

Originally Posted by Shostak

According to LE rules, a figure stands at the end of the turn, after all actions (this is different from the rules in Advanced Melee from the 1980s-. So, heavily armored or not, the pushed-over hero is going to have to hope the giant misses his +4 attack.

This is an interesting point. If you make the roll to move to an adjacent hex, then you move first (as an action) and stand later. If you move into a front hex of the giant, he can indeed hit you with a +4 attack.

You may be better off in HTH and facing a trample.

On the other hand, if you're in one of the two rear hexes of the giant, you can roll out to his side or rear.

[Shostak]

Originally Posted by phiwum

You may be better off in HTH and facing a trample.

I know of nothing in the rules that suggests that a giant could not attack a figure prone in one of its hexes. To the best of my knowledge, such a figure could face a trample and a normal attack.

[phiwum]

Originally Posted by Shostak

I know of nothing in the rules that suggests that a giant could not attack a figure prone in one of its hexes. To the best of my knowledge, such a figure could face a trample and a normal attack.

On the one hand, men can trample and attack rats in their hex and that's analogous to giants attacking men in their hex.

On the other hand, I'm not sure that one can swing a club at a fella under his feet. Rats are presumably crawling on you (although they can be trampled). Dragonets are in the air in your hex.

So, I could go either way on whether a giant could attack a downed man in his hex. If the consensus in the forum is that they can, I'm good with that. I thought that Axly's post here suggested that the giant could only trample, not swing a club, but on re-reading it, I think it's not so clear whether that's what he meant.

ETA: Axly was very clear in this post. He does not reckon a giant gets a regular attack on a figure downed in his hex. Lars says the same thing in that thread.