Kneeling and Prone

voodoo54 · 04-17-2019, 10:02 AM

After reading over the rules several times I cant figure out what advantage you would gain by kneeling or being prone. I see that being prone gives you a bonus to attacking with a crossbow, but that's it. Am I missing something? Why would you use these options in a combat situation? The only thing I can think of for kneeling is to maybe pick up a weapon? Any insight would help thanks!

hcobb · 04-17-2019, 10:18 AM

Kneel behind cover: ITL 116 (+2 DX adjustment if the cover provides a crossbow brace)

FireHorse · 04-17-2019, 10:22 AM

Also, sheltering behind bodies, same page.

mark hill · 04-17-2019, 10:53 AM

this might be 'old rules' (or my house rules or my imagination lol)

isnt it -4 DX to shoot at prone guys with missile weapons? (hence the WW2 passtime of hitting the deck when bullets start to fly?)

voodoo54 · 04-17-2019, 10:58 AM

Yeah I thought the advantage for both would be to make it more difficult to be hit from a thrown or ranged weapon but I don't see it in the rules anywhere. Maybe that can be my first house rule.

mark hill · 04-17-2019, 11:01 AM

obviously its not a great tactic for a bowman lol .. one area where xbows definitely have the advantage

AAAND its probably not gonna work great if the shooter is only 1 hex away (possibly 1 or 2 hexes away)

Tolenkar · 04-17-2019, 10:39 PM

The -4 DX for a missile weapons user to hit a target that is prone/concealed is listed on page 122 of the new ITL. It is under concealment. "-4 if your target is half hidden, or prone or kneeling behind a body".

-Tolenkar

voodoo54 · 04-18-2019, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tolenkar

The -4 DX for a missile weapons user to hit a target that is prone/concealed is listed on page 122 of the new ITL. It is under concealment. "-4 if your target is half hidden, or prone or kneeling behind a body".

-Tolenkar

Just what I was looking for, thanks!

hcobb · 04-18-2019, 12:10 PM

Can a wizard specify three foot high for "Create Wall"?

How about Create Wall with an arrow slit and a crossbow brace?

FireHorse · 04-18-2019, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcobb

Can a wizard specify three foot high for "Create Wall"?

How about Create Wall with an arrow slit and a crossbow brace?

The former, I would think yes. It might even have a discounted cost to cast.

The latter, I would think not. Extra details, rather than just something solid, might qualify it as "Create Battlement".

04-17-2019, 10:02 AM	#1
voodoo54 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Southern Carolina	Kneeling and Prone After reading over the rules several times I cant figure out what advantage you would gain by kneeling or being prone. I see that being prone gives you a bonus to attacking with a crossbow, but that's it. Am I missing something? Why would you use these options in a combat situation? The only thing I can think of for kneeling is to maybe pick up a weapon? Any insight would help thanks!

04-17-2019, 10:18 AM	#2
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Re: Kneeling and Prone Kneel behind cover: ITL 116 (+2 DX adjustment if the cover provides a crossbow brace) __________________ -HJC

04-17-2019, 10:22 AM	#3
FireHorse Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Re: Kneeling and Prone Also, sheltering behind bodies, same page.

04-17-2019, 10:53 AM	#4
mark hill Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: 'Straya (big island in the pacific)	Re: Kneeling and Prone this might be 'old rules' (or my house rules or my imagination lol) isnt it -4 DX to shoot at prone guys with missile weapons? (hence the WW2 passtime of hitting the deck when bullets start to fly?) Last edited by mark hill; 04-17-2019 at 10:57 AM.

04-17-2019, 10:58 AM	#5
voodoo54 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Southern Carolina	Re: Kneeling and Prone Yeah I thought the advantage for both would be to make it more difficult to be hit from a thrown or ranged weapon but I don't see it in the rules anywhere. Maybe that can be my first house rule.

04-17-2019, 11:01 AM	#6
mark hill Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: 'Straya (big island in the pacific)	Re: Kneeling and Prone obviously its not a great tactic for a bowman lol .. one area where xbows definitely have the advantage AAAND its probably not gonna work great if the shooter is only 1 hex away (possibly 1 or 2 hexes away) Last edited by mark hill; 04-17-2019 at 11:09 AM.

04-17-2019, 10:39 PM	#7
Tolenkar Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Cidri	Re: Kneeling and Prone The -4 DX for a missile weapons user to hit a target that is prone/concealed is listed on page 122 of the new ITL. It is under concealment. "-4 if your target is half hidden, or prone or kneeling behind a body". -Tolenkar __________________ Yes, I know Tollenkar is misspelled. I did it on purpose. Apparently, I purposefully misspell words all the time...

04-18-2019, 12:10 PM	#9
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Re: Kneeling and Prone Can a wizard specify three foot high for "Create Wall"? How about Create Wall with an arrow slit and a crossbow brace? __________________ -HJC