Is there a PDF version of the new TFT for sale?

[mark hill]

if yes, where/how do I get it?

If not, is the hardback book a complete set of the new rules?

[RVA_Grandpa]

Originally Posted by mark hill

if yes, where/how do I get it?

If not, is the hardback book a complete set of the new rules?

None of the rule books have been released yet through stores or W23. The only copies were released to the supporters of the kickstarter.

According to everything I've seen, the release date is June 2019. Look here for more information:

https://thefantasytrip.game/products...the-labyrinth/

Second Question: The hardback is the complete rules set.

[hcobb]

I strongly advise getting a copy of Melee also, as it covers certain rule aspects that are left unclear ITL.

[mark hill]

I have multiple copies of the 1977 to 1981 stuff .. has lots changed? or is it very close? many big alterations?

[Chris Rice]

Originally Posted by mark hill

I have multiple copies of the 1977 to 1981 stuff .. has lots changed? or is it very close? many big alterations?

Melee and Wizard are essentially the same as before. There have been changes to In The Labyrinth; some new Talents and Spells, a new XP system, but even then the changes are minor. It's the same great game, just in a shiny new edition.

[hcobb]

Big changes:

• Skill points not the same as IQ level
• Very very few characters will add more than 7 attribute points
• Other things to spend XPs on, extra skill points or Mana
• The Staff spell is very different from Wizard

[JLV]

(Erm..."Skill Points" aren't actually a thing anymore, except as a mechanism used to create a new character -- they certainly don't have anything to do with an ongoing campaign.) You buy talents and spells with XP now, and the only limitation deriving from IQ is what LEVEL of talent or spell you can buy (that is, if your IQ is 10, you can't buy an IQ 11 talent or spell). The new hardback version of ITL DOES include Advanced Wizard and Advanced Melee (with some changes over the classic versions, and they're actually called "Advanced Combat" and "Advanced Magic" now) in it, so if you have it, you have all the rules currently out there... You CAN pre-order it via Steve Jackson games -- I think that Phil has published a usable link several times over on the "Thank You, Everyone!" thread.

(Edited to add: The new versions of Melee and Wizard are identical to the original versions. Really, the only reason to get them is for the large nifty new heavy-duty counters and the larger hex size maps. But, they're well worth getting for that alone!)

[flankspeed]

I know this is not the PDF or the hardcover version of "In The Labyrinth," but my Friendly, Local Game Store told me that The Fantasy Trip: Legacy Edition (the $120.00 box) will be released on April 17, so if I pre-order, I should get it on that day. Hope your local stores can do the same.

Game on!

[Axly Suregrip]

Charging with pole weapons and standing vs charge has changed in the new Melee. So, no it is not identical to the 1977 Melee. Some other sections are clearer.

[mark hill]

my friendly, local game store is in 'Straya, and its a thrice-damned GeeDub shop, WH/40k only .. I dont go in there much (once in my life actually) .. I dont think theyre gonna be carryin any SJG stuff

darn I really REALLY wanna read the rules