Does a Reptile Man double their HTH damage before or after their UC/Brawling bonus?

[zot]

The subject says it all...

[larsdangly]

Good question; I would say after.

[hcobb]

The difference between an adjacent hex strike and HTH is that in HTH the RP is adding a bite to her claw attack so give her a second attack rather than doubled damage.

[Helborn]

I would say before. UC is the knowledge of WHERE and/or HOW to hit. Claws and teeth simply do more damage in that location than hands and fingernails.
ITL pg 39 (1) because of his jaws and claws, he does double the HTH damage that a human of equivalent ST would (Nothing is mentioned about this being a double attack which would require a separate roll at -4DX to one of them - like a RM tail)

[hcobb]

What form of martial arts trains biting?

[Skarg]

Originally Posted by hcobb

What form of martial arts trains biting?

Chomp Fu, Dragon Fu...

[Tenex]

Originally Posted by hcobb

What form of martial arts trains biting?

Kino Mutai, aka Kinomutay trains in it. I've never trained in it or even seen it, but I've been told that they train on taking successive small bites rather than one big one.

But on another level, why wouldn't a reptile man martial art exist? Human martial arts emphasize our "natural" weapons, i.e. elbows, knees, etc. I would imagine a reptile man martial art would emphasize such a wonderous natural advantage.

[zot]

Originally Posted by Tenex

Kino Mutai, aka Kinomutay trains in it. I've never trained in it or even seen it, but I've been told that they train on taking successive small bites rather than one big one.

But on another level, why wouldn't a reptile man martial art exist? Human martial arts emphasize our "natural" weapons, i.e. elbows, knees, etc. I would imagine a reptile man martial art would emphasize such a wonderous natural advantage.

My thoughts as well. But of course I wasn't trying to solicit opinions, I was asking for a ruling from Steve. Not that I mind other people's musings, though.

[hcobb]

So the PC RPs are going to need to roll how many dice vs IQ to find a Dragon Fu teacher in a city of 10k people and 20 RPs?

[tomc]

Originally Posted by hcobb

The difference between an adjacent hex strike and HTH is that in HTH the RP is adding a bite to her claw attack so give her a second attack rather than doubled damage.

I'd consider it part of the 5 seconds worth of attacks she gets that turn, and just double it.