Thoughts on the Beta PDFs

David Bofinger · 09-20-2018, 08:36 AM

If we have actual errors we're supposed to tell the authorities, this thread is just for miscellaneous thoughts about them.

The PRONE markers have the same thing written on each side? I think they should have something to the effect of "-2 DX due to wounds" on the reverse -that meaning but shorter, I guess. Actually it seems very unlikely we need that many PRONE markers.
The warrior counters from Wizard (representing, I assume, summoned myrmidons) are not very clad. Almost like some wizards can keep them around long enough they are useful for recreational purposes.

aaron819 · 09-20-2018, 09:02 AM

Looks pretty good. Never played or read TFT before, so i have no other version to compare it to. I don't like the niche protection that is giving wizards penalties to non-staff weapons, but there's a reason steve is a game designer and I'm not.

larsdangly · 09-20-2018, 11:45 AM

I'm sure a lot of people like the 'class' specific penalties and limitations, but a relax them at my table.

Skarg · 09-20-2018, 01:17 PM

In the full rules in In The Labyrinth, that "class protection" becomes a general requirement for everyone to have an appropriate weapon talent or attack at -4.

Skarg · 09-20-2018, 01:20 PM

Overall, I really like the new previews we're seeing!

I love the adjustments to the effects of fallen bodies, especially the explicit -2 footing penalty, and the option to slowly enter or leap over bodies to avoid having to make a 3/DX roll or fall (which in the original rules was IMO too brutal for low/mid-DX figures).

I think I miss the 3/DX roll not to fall when a Forced Retreat happens to someone with nowhere to retreat, though. Of course it's the easiest thing in the world to re-add as a house rule.

Skarg · 09-20-2018, 03:01 PM

I'm really not sure why there is a change of 1 point for death and unconsciousness. It doesn't increase the margin where people might be alive if they collapse from wounds at all. And as is being pointed out in errata, it makes the existing examples explaining it wrong.

Having unconscious be 0 OR 1, and death at -1, would help in both ways, though a 2-point unconsciousness zone is not much different from 1.

09-20-2018, 08:36 AM	#1
David Bofinger Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia	Thoughts on the Beta PDFs If we have actual errors we're supposed to tell the authorities, this thread is just for miscellaneous thoughts about them. The PRONE markers have the same thing written on each side? I think they should have something to the effect of "-2 DX due to wounds" on the reverse -that meaning but shorter, I guess. Actually it seems very unlikely we need that many PRONE markers. The warrior counters from Wizard (representing, I assume, summoned myrmidons) are not very clad. Almost like some wizards can keep them around long enough they are useful for recreational purposes.

09-20-2018, 09:02 AM	#2
aaron819 Join Date: Jun 2017	Re: Thoughts on the Beta PDFs Looks pretty good. Never played or read TFT before, so i have no other version to compare it to. I don't like the niche protection that is giving wizards penalties to non-staff weapons, but there's a reason steve is a game designer and I'm not.

09-20-2018, 11:45 AM	#3
larsdangly Join Date: Dec 2017	Re: Thoughts on the Beta PDFs I'm sure a lot of people like the 'class' specific penalties and limitations, but a relax them at my table.

09-20-2018, 01:17 PM	#4
Skarg Join Date: May 2015	Re: Thoughts on the Beta PDFs In the full rules in In The Labyrinth, that "class protection" becomes a general requirement for everyone to have an appropriate weapon talent or attack at -4.

09-20-2018, 01:20 PM	#5
Skarg Join Date: May 2015	Re: Thoughts on the Beta PDFs Overall, I really like the new previews we're seeing! I love the adjustments to the effects of fallen bodies, especially the explicit -2 footing penalty, and the option to slowly enter or leap over bodies to avoid having to make a 3/DX roll or fall (which in the original rules was IMO too brutal for low/mid-DX figures). I think I miss the 3/DX roll not to fall when a Forced Retreat happens to someone with nowhere to retreat, though. Of course it's the easiest thing in the world to re-add as a house rule.

09-20-2018, 03:01 PM	#6
Skarg Join Date: May 2015	Re: Thoughts on the Beta PDFs I'm really not sure why there is a change of 1 point for death and unconsciousness. It doesn't increase the margin where people might be alive if they collapse from wounds at all. And as is being pointed out in errata, it makes the existing examples explaining it wrong. Having unconscious be 0 OR 1, and death at -1, would help in both ways, though a 2-point unconsciousness zone is not much different from 1.