Possible errata in High-Tech and Tactical Shooting

RedDragon · 09-12-2018, 07:40 PM

While I was going through the weapons tables I noticed something odd:
The Steyr-Solothurn S18-1000 (HT p.113; Damage 6dx2(2) pi++; 1938-1940; 7.1' long, Bulk -11; $25,000) and the Lahti L-39 (TS p.61; Damage 6dx3(2) pi++; 1939-1944; 7.3' long, Bulk -10; $12,000), despite using the same ammunition, having barrel lengths between 10% of each other, having (from what I've found) very similar muzzle velocities, and being developed less than a year apart, have two massive disparities - somehow the Lahti is 50% more powerful while costing less than half as much.
When I brought this up to a friend, his response was "It's Sisu".
Anyway, it seems like one or both of those statistics are in error, as I didn't see anything in the descriptions of either weapon mentioning higher or lower relative firepower to other guns of its type. My suspicion is that one of these was statted out based on real-world data and the other was guestimated (that or it's a typo). Then again, I'm hardly well-versed in ballistics and firearm development, so maybe I'm wrong. I'd appreciate some clarification either way.
What I find especially funny is the fact that apparently Finland bought some Steyr-Solothurns during WWII - seems like a silly investment given the stuff they had at their disposal (in addition to the Lahti's lower cost and higher damage, it holds an extra shot in the chamber and takes 2 seconds less to reload).

Edit: Ok, I just noticed in the description for the Steyr-Solothurn it says that it also fired SAPHE (Dmg 6dx3 pi++ with a 2d [1d] cr ex follow-up). The Lahti also fires SAPHE-T (Dmg 6dx3 pi++ with 2d-1 [1d] cr ex follow-up) (why the difference in fragmentation damage?). This leads me to believe that the Lahti is supposed to normally do 6dx3 pi++ and its AP ammunition (which multiplies damage by 0.7 as described in HT, p.167) is supposed to do 6dx2(2) pi++, same as the Steyr-Solothurn. In that case, the damages given for the Lahti firing AP-T and APEX (both of which list basic damge as 6dx3 pi++) are also wrong. This makes me lean more towards the typo answer. On a somewhat related note, the Lahti is noted as firing WP-T rounds, but the damage stat for those rounds seems to be missing the (0.5) armor divisor mentioned on HT, p.172 - so one of those passages is incorrect, methinks.

09-12-2018, 07:40 PM	#1
RedDragon Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico	Possible errata in High-Tech and Tactical Shooting While I was going through the weapons tables I noticed something odd: The Steyr-Solothurn S18-1000 (HT p.113; Damage 6dx2(2) pi++; 1938-1940; 7.1' long, Bulk -11; $25,000) and the Lahti L-39 (TS p.61; Damage 6dx3(2) pi++; 1939-1944; 7.3' long, Bulk -10; $12,000), despite using the same ammunition, having barrel lengths between 10% of each other, having (from what I've found) very similar muzzle velocities, and being developed less than a year apart, have two massive disparities - somehow the Lahti is 50% more powerful while costing less than half as much. When I brought this up to a friend, his response was "It's Sisu". Anyway, it seems like one or both of those statistics are in error, as I didn't see anything in the descriptions of either weapon mentioning higher or lower relative firepower to other guns of its type. My suspicion is that one of these was statted out based on real-world data and the other was guestimated (that or it's a typo). Then again, I'm hardly well-versed in ballistics and firearm development, so maybe I'm wrong. I'd appreciate some clarification either way. What I find especially funny is the fact that apparently Finland bought some Steyr-Solothurns during WWII - seems like a silly investment given the stuff they had at their disposal (in addition to the Lahti's lower cost and higher damage, it holds an extra shot in the chamber and takes 2 seconds less to reload). Edit: Ok, I just noticed in the description for the Steyr-Solothurn it says that it also fired SAPHE (Dmg 6dx3 pi++ with a 2d [1d] cr ex follow-up). The Lahti also fires SAPHE-T (Dmg 6dx3 pi++ with 2d-1 [1d] cr ex follow-up) (why the difference in fragmentation damage?). This leads me to believe that the Lahti is supposed to normally do 6dx3 pi++ and its AP ammunition (which multiplies damage by 0.7 as described in HT, p.167) is supposed to do 6dx2(2) pi++, same as the Steyr-Solothurn. In that case, the damages given for the Lahti firing AP-T and APEX (both of which list basic damge as 6dx3 pi++) are also wrong. This makes me lean more towards the typo answer. On a somewhat related note, the Lahti is noted as firing WP-T rounds, but the damage stat for those rounds seems to be missing the (0.5) armor divisor mentioned on HT, p.172 - so one of those passages is incorrect, methinks. Last edited by RedDragon; 09-12-2018 at 08:02 PM.