Virtual Table Top (VTT) support

[seycyrus]

Originally Posted by robkelk

Please dispense with the snide comments.

If you have a definition that you want everyone else to follow, please state it.

Please dispense with the accusation of snide comments.

Exactly who are you to define protocol?

Storium is not a VTT "like" roll20 or FG.

It is something else. Something that is not being discussed here.

[robkelk]

Originally Posted by seycyrus

Please dispense with the accusation of snide comments.

Exactly who are you to define protocol?

I'm the person you insulted with your statement. And I expect an apology.

Originally Posted by seycyrus

Storium is not a VTT "like" roll20 or FG.

It is something else. Something that is not being discussed here.

So what exactly is the difference?

I ask you again to state your definition.

[Gigermann]

Originally Posted by KataH

I was just curious as to why Steve Jackson Games is not supporting VTTs like Roll20 or Fantasy Grounds?

I can't/don't speak for SJG, officially, but I can speak to a few facts I know about, for the record:

• SJG absolutely wants to partner with a VTT provider
• SJG is currently looking into the matter
• Community buzz about this or that VTT will influence their decisions in that regard

FWIW, I prefer Fantasy Grounds for a lot of reasons. But I am not exactly un-biased, as I am part of the team working on the FG ruleset, and have invested a lot of time into working with the software.

[keyespj]

Like Blindmapmaker, I use Maptools as well. It has a great price point. My use of VTT though is not for internet play, but for table top play. I have setup an old 42" monitor in our gaming area and I project the map there for the players. Though if SJG was to publish a VTT, I would gladly give them my money.

[Gigermann]

Originally Posted by keyespj

…My use of VTT though is not for internet play, but for table top play. I have setup an old 42" monitor in our gaming area and I project the map there for the players.

For the record, FG just recently added a feature to resize a map+grid to match 1" based on the screen resolution, specifically for this purpose. Our face-to-face group has been using FG to track combat sequence, modifiers, and sometimes combat mapping (though not on the table).

Originally Posted by keyespj

Though if SJG was to publish a VTT, I would gladly give them my money.

Though I suspect it's not exactly what you meant, also for the record: SJG is highly unlikely to publish their own VTT—there is far too much work & infrastructure required for a venture like that to make it cost-effective, especially compared to throwing their support behind an existing product.

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by keyespj

Like Blindmapmaker, I use Maptools as well. It has a great price point. My use of VTT though is not for internet play, but for table top play. I have setup an old 42" monitor in our gaming area and I project the map there for the players. Though if SJG was to publish a VTT, I would gladly give them my money.

I use MapTools for both.

Fantasy Grounds is a no go because of the subscription model. I don't rent things, particularly not software. I'm not about to start over a luxury product.

For me, Roll20 falls down compared to MT on the most basic parts of VTT functionality: Putting in a map, looking at the map (zoom, pan), moving things around on a map. R20's map space is stunningly limited in size, its navigation tools are crude, and because it's hosted in a web browser it can't make full use of mouse gestures, nor can it really be tablet friendly. The constraint on zoom levels is bizarre.

[Gigermann]

Originally Posted by Bruno

Fantasy Grounds is a no go because of the subscription model. I don't rent things, particularly not software. I'm not about to start over a luxury product.

To be fair, the FG subscription is an option, not a requirement.

[Christopher R. Rice]

One of my big hurdles at the moment for FG is that there is no easy way Mac can be used. I run 2 online games and a face to face game every week for 15 people. 3 of them use non-windows machines. I can't move to a program that won't easily include them. And that stinks. This is why I've been contemplating MapTool more and more.

[hal]

Originally Posted by Bruno

I use MapTools for both.

Fantasy Grounds is a no go because of the subscription model. I don't rent things, particularly not software. I'm not about to start over a luxury product.

I'm not certain why people keep saying "rental cost". FG2 can be purchased as a one time purchase instead of a monthly rental fee. Right now, because of Black Friday, the prices for the licenses are rather cheap.

You can purchase an "Ultimate License" - normally $149, now for $111.75. The normal license is $39, but today, it's $29.25

So, you don't HAVE to rent the software if you would rather buy it. The rental is for those who'd prefer not to pay up front, the full cost involved.

[Mark Skarr]

Originally Posted by hal

I'm not certain why people keep saying "rental cost". FG2 can be purchased as a one time purchase instead of a monthly rental fee. Right now, because of Black Friday, the prices for the licenses are rather cheap.

You can purchase an "Ultimate License" - normally $149, now for $111.75. The normal license is $39, but today, it's $29.25

So, you don't HAVE to rent the software if you would rather buy it. The rental is for those who'd prefer not to pay up front, the full cost involved.

I can buy four copies of TableTop Simulator for $30 right now.