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Old 10-25-2015, 02:05 PM   #1
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There really is zero reason cutting damage will be reduced against skeletons. Remember, it's piercing and impaling that fail horribly against skeletons, not axes!
Creatures with Vulnerability (Crushing). As mentioned, skeletons. But also some birdlike creatures, among other things.

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That said, reality (and history) allows for holding your sword by the blade and bashing some skulls with the guard.
Do note that this is likely to change the skill required to Axe/Mace due to making the weapon Unbalanced (U-Parry).
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Old 10-25-2015, 02:37 PM   #2
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Realistically, striking with the flat of your blade should result in a substantial reduction in damage; swords are not meant to be used that way.
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Old 10-25-2015, 02:39 PM   #3
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Realistically, striking with the flat of your blade should result in a substantial reduction in damage; swords are not meant to be used that way.
That seems to amount to 1-2 points of damage on a normal sword (the amount that can be attributed to sharpness of a sword as opposed to just its mass×velocity; compare to a stick of a similar mass, with no edge).
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Old 10-25-2015, 02:39 PM   #4
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Yeah, I'm gonna reduce the damage by a point or two.
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Old 10-26-2015, 01:37 AM   #5
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Do note that this is likely to change the skill required to Axe/Mace due to making the weapon Unbalanced (U-Parry).
This is how it is managed in Martial Arts. Swords held by the blade are two-hand round maces.
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Old 10-25-2015, 12:10 PM   #6
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S... against skeletons and they'll want to do crushing damage. Can they strike with the flat of the blade or the back of the axe to do this?
B401, box "Subduing a Foe", paragraph Turn your blade.
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Old 10-26-2015, 10:09 AM   #7
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So my players are about to go up against skeletons and they'll want to do crushing damage. Can they strike with the flat of the blade or the back of the axe to do this? I seem to remember something about this in Campaigns but I can't find it.
Realistically, cutting damage should be no worse than crushing damage against skeletons except that there's no reason to apply the cutting wounding modifier.
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Old 10-26-2015, 10:17 AM   #8
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Realistically, cutting damage should be no worse than crushing damage against skeletons except that there's no reason to apply the cutting wounding modifier.
The template for skeletons includes Vulnerability (Crushing) in this case. Thus, crushing damage is preferred.
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Old 10-26-2015, 10:35 AM   #9
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The template for skeletons includes Vulnerability (Crushing) in this case. Thus, crushing damage is preferred.
It's an unfortunate artifact in the template. They should have advantages that reduce wounding instead.
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Old 10-26-2015, 10:43 AM   #10
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It's an unfortunate artifact in the template. They should have advantages that reduce wounding instead.
They (should) have an Injury Tolerance, making piercing and impaling quite ineffective.
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