[Combat]: Do you bow, bro?

[brianfb]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

6 feet away? 6 feet away? Who that doesn't suffer from a serious nerve disorder cannot hit a man sized target from 6 feet away even if under excited pressure?
I can do that and there's no way I'm using anything other than than default from a not so nice Dexterity score.

Funny because its true.

[ErhnamDJ]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

I can do that and there's no way I'm using anything other than default from a not so nice Dexterity score.

While enemy soldiers are stabbing at you with a pike, a few hundred enemy cavalry are bearing down on you, and a cannonball just took out six of your cousins right next to you?

I imagine there's a large bonus, like with guns, for being in a non-stressful situation.

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by ErhnamDJ

While enemy soldiers are stabbing at you with a pike, a few hundred enemy cavalry are bearing down on you, and an enemy cannonball just took out six of your cousins right next to you?

I imagine there's a large bonus, like with guns, for being in a non-stressful situation.

I couldn't walk a straight line if I'm failing the Fright Check all that would cause. Yet I don't see anyone calling for a skill roll to walk.

Six feet is simply trivial for anyone capable of moving their arms in any coordinated fashion.

[Mailanka]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

6 feet away? 6 feet away? Who that doesn't suffer from a serious nerve disorder cannot hit a man sized target from 6 feet away even if under excited pressure?
I can do that and there's no way I'm using anything other than default from a not so nice Dexterity score.

Film yourself shooting someone who is stabbing you and send it in to the SJGames errata department.

(There are numerous little... weirdnesses regarding ranged combat in GURPS. Not that I want to declare it singularly bad in the RPG world, because it's not, it's just with the level of detail it has, some of the abstractions stick out. Don't get me started on RoF or, as I've recently discovered, jets and lasers)

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

6 feet away? 6 feet away? Who that doesn't suffer from a serious nerve disorder cannot hit a man sized target from 6 feet away even if under excited pressure?

You'd be surprised by how inaccurate people are under conditions of pressure. I don't know of one specific to 2 yards, but a study of NYC police firearm use puts the average hit rate at 18% for firefights (i.e. target shooting back), 30% when target was not shooting back (37% within 7 yards, 23% beyond 7 yards).

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

6 feet away? 6 feet away? Who that doesn't suffer from a serious nerve disorder cannot hit a man sized target from 6 feet away even if under excited pressure?
I can do that and there's no way I'm using anything other than default from a not so nice Dexterity score.

Cannot hit? Or cannot hit every time? I've certainly missed man-sized targets at that range. With a dart gun, which has to rate easier than a bow. (I'm pretty sure I've never taken an unaimed shot from a bow or shot a bow at less than 6 feet.)


Do note that bows are ranged weapons, and might be eligible for some or all of the 'range conditions' bonuses credited to guns for non-combat shooting.

[Kalzazz]

Qualifying with a revolver with 12 shots at 3 yds and 12 shots at 7yds, I managed to put 27 holes in my human sized target.

Not only did someone manage to miss, they managed to hit the completely wrong target

[weby]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

6 feet away? 6 feet away? Who that doesn't suffer from a serious nerve disorder cannot hit a man sized target from 6 feet away even if under excited pressure?
I can do that and there's no way I'm using anything other than default from a not so nice Dexterity score.

And yet if you were firing a pistol you would not hit if you were an average person, There are a lot of statistics on gunfights where the opponents are firing at each other at short ranges. In vast majority of them the vast majority of the shots miss, despite being at an average distance of less that 7 yards(-3 in GURPS terms).

A good example of how hard it is is found on pages 3-5 of:
http://www.theppsc.org/Staff_Views/Aveni/OIS.pdf

[Humabout]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

6 feet away? 6 feet away? Who that doesn't suffer from a serious nerve disorder cannot hit a man sized target from 6 feet away even if under excited pressure?
I can do that and there's no way I'm using anything other than default from a not so nice Dexterity score.

Can you? You've hit an actively evading target who is bent on murdering you in the face, while dodging his long spear thrusts? I'm truly impressed! If you are talking about target shooting, you might refer to the box on Tactical Shooting, p. 9. A +10 to skill makes it hard not to miss at 6 feet...if you aren't in combat.

[Kalzazz]

The 6ft bowshot is not something I've seen happening in LARPing, 6ft is to close really, they can reach out and hit your bow