Limitations on super luck

[Dingle]

I want to make a variation on super luck available to players, but I do not know how to price it.

In a Cinematic campaign, I'd like to make it possible for players of casual badasses to ensure a critical success if it was reasonably likely in the first place.
Or merely succeed at something reasonably unlikely.

I intend to do this by modifying super luck to mot allow the player to dictate 3 or 4, leaving 5 as the lowest die roll possible.

In effect, this guarantees a success for effective skill 5 to 14, and a critical success for effective skill 15+ as opposed to the original advantage which gave a critical success for effective skill 3+

What discount might you suggest for Super Luck (can't dictate 3 or 4)?
What other limitations and variations have you seen applied to Super Luck?
How were they priced?

[GodBeastX]

I would go with a -5% to -15% modifier. Essentially, doing a quick idea of the math in my head, you are taking away a substantial chance of critical success by making it where it can only happen when effective level is 15+.

This is impossible to calculate how often that would be, but my gut feeling tells me you are effectively turning it off for a majority of rolls for critical success.

Still, it's not limiting it's functionality enough to be crippling for the Advantage since failures can still succeed and there's still possibility of criticals. And since the % chance of rolling 3 or 4 vs 5 is only about 2% we're not looking at a major change.

[evileeyore]

Originally Posted by GodBeastX

I would go with a -5% to -15% modifier. Essentially, doing a quick idea of the math in my head, you are taking away a substantial chance of critical success by making it where it can only happen when effective level is 15+.

he's also stripping the ability of the player to alter non-skill based die rolls, which (anecdotally) is where I've seen it used most often.

[Dingle]

I hadn't considered non-skill rolls, what else do you find it used for?
I think it can still be used for dodge, HT, etc. by deciding that you will roll a 5 on the 3d6.

[evileeyore]

Originally Posted by Dingle

I hadn't considered non-skill rolls, what else do you find it used for?

Any die roll.

Personally I used it most often for rolls on Crit Tables and First Impressions (I used Ridiculous Luck to get the crits), and I've seen another player use it on their damage rolls.


However for this application, Dingle, you might want to consider using Impulse Buys and give the Players Impulse Points usable every session or hour specifically for turning regular hits into crits.

[Edges]

I agree that Impulse Buys are the way to go. If you get these kind of points from wildcard skills, they are already restricted to skill rolls*. If you get them from the Destiny advantage, you could say that it costs 4 points per level (instead of 5) since it can only be used on skill rolls.

As for the idea that only the really skilled can buy crit success:
Normally, 1 impulse buy point can turn a failure into a success and 2 can turn a success onto a crit success. You can just make a house rule that says the latter is only available if you have an effective 15+ in the skill in question.

*EDIT: With some exceptions that can be ignored if you like.

[johndallman]

Originally Posted by Dingle

What discount might you suggest for Super Luck (can't dictate 3 or 4)?

-10% seems about right.