Secret - lose a hand

[Anders]

People in my setting don't really believe in prisons, thinking them expensive and preferring the "chop off bits" approach to law enforcement. This causes a slight problem with pricing the Secret disadvantage, as "lopping of a hand" isn't on the list. Tentatively I've priced it at -15 - the same as One Hand - but I want to know what you think?

And there's no easy way to regrow limbs in the setting. Magic isn't that common or powerful.

[Turhan's Bey Company]

Originally Posted by Anders

People in my setting don't really believe in prisons, thinking them expensive and preferring the "chop off bits" approach to law enforcement. This causes a slight problem with pricing the Secret disadvantage, as "lopping of a hand" isn't on the list. Tentatively I've priced it at -15 - the same as One Hand - but I want to know what you think?

Well...

Originally Posted by Characters, p. 152

There is also a
lasting effect: you suddenly acquire
new, permanent disadvantages – or
lose advantages – worth points equal
to twice what the Secret was worth!

...so if the outcome of the secret being revealed is just losing a hand, the price would probably be something like -8 points. However, if there are also lasting social consequences, those will raise the cost of the disad.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Turhan's Bey Company

Well...

...so if the outcome of the secret being revealed is just losing a hand, the price would probably be something like -8 points. However, if there are also lasting social consequences, those will raise the cost of the disad.

There almost certainly would be a Social Stigma associated with being a handless person and therefore presumably a criminal.

[RyanW]

Is justice so efficient that it skips straight from Secret to One Hand, or would it actually be Enemy (Bounty hunters, constables, and/or agents of the wronged parties)?

[Gedrin]

I'm pretty sure it goes like this:

Secret: Hand Lopping Offender
to
Enemy: Bounty Hunters and The Law (to chop off hand)
to
Secret: Cop Killer
to
Enemy: Bounty Hunters and The Law (dead or alive)

[Dalillama]

Originally Posted by Gedrin

I'm pretty sure it goes like this:

Secret: Hand Lopping Offender
to
Enemy: Bounty Hunters and The Law (to chop off hand)
to
Secret: Cop Killer
to
Enemy: Bounty Hunters and The Law (dead or alive)

Or, depending on how skilled you and they are:
Secret: Hand Lopping Offender
to
Enemy: Bounty Hunters and The Law (to chop off hand)
to
One Hand [-15], Social Stigma (Handless criminal) [-10], Social Status -1 [-5]

[Railstar]

Originally Posted by Anders

People in my setting don't really believe in prisons, thinking them expensive and preferring the "chop off bits" approach to law enforcement. This causes a slight problem with pricing the Secret disadvantage, as "lopping of a hand" isn't on the list. Tentatively I've priced it at -15 - the same as One Hand - but I want to know what you think?

And there's no easy way to regrow limbs in the setting. Magic isn't that common or powerful.

This exact example is covered in Basic Set page 153. A guard who is a thief at night loses a hand, is forced to pay fines that impoverish him, loses his authority as a guard, and gains a criminal record. The total effects of the secret mean losing 40 points, so he has Secret [-20].

I would go for Secret [-10] but if caught he gains One-Hand [-15] AND Social Stigma: Criminal Record [-5].

[Langy]

Originally Posted by Anders

People in my setting don't really believe in prisons, thinking them expensive and preferring the "chop off bits" approach to law enforcement. This causes a slight problem with pricing the Secret disadvantage, as "lopping of a hand" isn't on the list. Tentatively I've priced it at -15 - the same as One Hand - but I want to know what you think?

And there's no easy way to regrow limbs in the setting. Magic isn't that common or powerful.

Should probably be -10, with the One Hand advantage be -15 of the -20 and the other -5 being Social Stigma: Criminal.

[The Benj]

Originally Posted by Langy

Should probably be -10, with the One Hand advantage be -15 of the -20 and the other -5 being Social Stigma: Criminal.

Yep, that's the ticket.

[Otaku]

In a culture where theft is punished by lopping off a hand, doesn't a -1 Social Stigma seem a bit... low? I mean, it can't be too terrible (don't want it to become a "Kill on sight" kind of thing), but... well do I just not know the RAW guidelines?