Helper using Bat Bat prevents "you" from getting any levels nor treasures?

hippiedippie · 07-30-2013, 03:14 PM

I played Munchkin Bites! with some friends for the first time a week ago, which ended in an argument resulting in people leaving and ending the game prematurely =/.
And now I'm hoping for help regarding the ruling of the 'Bat Bat'-card (the bad boy in this story)

The scenario:
When I needed help defeating a Bat of higher combat strength than me, a player offered to help me without claiming any reward. Naive, thinking he was preventing other players any possible spoils rather then screwing with me, I agreed on it.
Good he said, the bat is dead and you won't get any treasure nor level! showing me the Bat Bat-card. In response (after reading the fine print of 'Bat Bat') i threw 'Evil Twin' in my own battle to now face a second monster, triggering 'Bat Bat', allowing both the treasure and kill, for both Bats.
After winning this battle, all hell broke loose...

We all agreed on that 'Bat Bat' would have prevented me from getting neither the treasure nor level, but when I played the "Evil twin' they all believed that since it was his special ability ('Bat Bat') slaying the first Bat, and specifically saying "YOU get the kill and treasures only if you defeat any remainig monsters" that it was his kill, and that it should be he (and not me) that should be entitled to the treasure for that first Bat. They read "you" as in singular you, an thus as the owner of the card whereas I read it as the plural you, as in both the combatants.

After that, we had a long, wild, and increasingly loud fight regarding the grammar of the triggered part of 'Bat Bat'...

So which one of us is right? Me or my friends? Plus, I consider the fight as mine, and thus making all spoils mine until the agreement takes effect (in this case he wanted zero treasure allowing me any number of treasures

07-30-2013, 03:14 PM	#1
hippiedippie Join Date: Jul 2013	Helper using Bat Bat prevents "you" from getting any levels nor treasures? I played Munchkin Bites! with some friends for the first time a week ago, which ended in an argument resulting in people leaving and ending the game prematurely =/. And now I'm hoping for help regarding the ruling of the 'Bat Bat'-card (the bad boy in this story) The scenario: When I needed help defeating a Bat of higher combat strength than me, a player offered to help me without claiming any reward. Naive, thinking he was preventing other players any possible spoils rather then screwing with me, I agreed on it. Good he said, the bat is dead and you won't get any treasure nor level! showing me the Bat Bat-card. In response (after reading the fine print of 'Bat Bat') i threw 'Evil Twin' in my own battle to now face a second monster, triggering 'Bat Bat', allowing both the treasure and kill, for both Bats. After winning this battle, all hell broke loose... We all agreed on that 'Bat Bat' would have prevented me from getting neither the treasure nor level, but when I played the "Evil twin' they all believed that since it was his special ability ('Bat Bat') slaying the first Bat, and specifically saying "YOU get the kill and treasures only if you defeat any remainig monsters" that it was his kill, and that it should be he (and not me) that should be entitled to the treasure for that first Bat. They read "you" as in singular you, an thus as the owner of the card whereas I read it as the plural you, as in both the combatants. After that, we had a long, wild, and increasingly loud fight regarding the grammar of the triggered part of 'Bat Bat'... So which one of us is right? Me or my friends? Plus, I consider the fight as mine, and thus making all spoils mine until the agreement takes effect (in this case he wanted zero treasure allowing me any number of treasures