Quick Question: Innate Attack melee modifiers for a giant's follow-up?

Raekai · 06-05-2013, 11:14 AM

Say I have a giant. His name is Albert. Albert's reach is C, 1-3 because his SM is 4. Albert is a magical giant of fire, and he wants to be able to punch people with fire when he gets angry. But Albert is confused! He looks at the rules for Follow-Up attacks but doesn't know how to price his own punch! It's nothing like the usual melee limitations for Innate Attack. Albert's reach is C, 1-3 and he can't find anything like it! So what does he do? Make one up? Or does it scale*?

*Example: Albert uses Melee Attack: C because that's what someone with a punch at SM 0 would use which is what the Innate Attack modifiers are based off of. Meaning that a punch would always be treated as a Melee Attack: C limitation for Follow-Ups.

Thanks!
And an extra thanks from Albert!

Christopher R. Rice · 06-05-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Raekai

Say I have a giant. His name is Albert. Albert's reach is C, 1-3 because his SM is 4. Albert is a magical giant of fire, and he wants to be able to punch people with fire when he gets angry. But Albert is confused! He looks at the rules for Follow-Up attacks but doesn't know how to price his own punch! It's nothing like the usual melee limitations for Innate Attack. Albert's reach is C, 1-3 and he can't find anything like it! So what does he do? Make one up? Or does it scale*?

*Example: Albert uses Melee Attack: C because that's what someone with a punch at SM 0 would use which is what the Innate Attack modifiers are based off of. Meaning that a punch would always be treated as a Melee Attack: C limitation for Follow-Ups.

Thanks!
And an extra thanks from Albert!

Power-Ups 4: Enhancements covers this on p. 9. Powers does as well on p. 146

Raekai · 06-05-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

Power-Ups 4: Enhancements covers this on p. 9. Powers does as well on p. 146

Aha! I shall check Powers!

Raekai · 06-05-2013, 11:45 AM

Aaand... I can't find it. I checked Innate Attack, the Melee Attack modifier, and Follow-Up. I'm not seeing a single thing about modifying for size...

EDIT: Ignore that. I'm an idiot. You gave me page numbers. I jumped the gun.

Raekai · 06-05-2013, 11:51 AM

Aaand... I still can't find it. I'm not looking for modifying existing damage. I'm looking at Follow-Ups. For Albert's fiery punches. Burning Attack with Follow-Up. But how do I price the Follow-Up? His reach isn't like any of the Melee limitations. What you gave me page numbers for is about making his punches do double knockback, etc.

Sunrunners_Fire · 06-05-2013, 01:44 PM

Is there a reason you aren't using Follow-Up (Natural Attack), +0%? (GURPS Basic, pg 105)

gjc8 · 06-05-2013, 01:47 PM

Per characters p. 105, I'd say Follow-up is +0% in this case. It uses claws or teeth as examples, but the rule appears to apply to any natural weapon, which would include basic punching.

06-05-2013, 11:14 AM	#1
Raekai World's Worst Detective Join Date: May 2011 Location: Columbus, Ohio	Quick Question: Innate Attack melee modifiers for a giant's follow-up? Say I have a giant. His name is Albert. Albert's reach is C, 1-3 because his SM is 4. Albert is a magical giant of fire, and he wants to be able to punch people with fire when he gets angry. But Albert is confused! He looks at the rules for Follow-Up attacks but doesn't know how to price his own punch! It's nothing like the usual melee limitations for Innate Attack. Albert's reach is C, 1-3 and he can't find anything like it! So what does he do? Make one up? Or does it scale? Example: Albert uses Melee Attack: C because that's what someone with a punch at SM 0 would use which is what the Innate Attack modifiers are based off of. Meaning that a punch would always be treated as a Melee Attack: C limitation for Follow-Ups. Thanks! And an extra thanks from Albert!

06-05-2013, 11:45 AM	#4
Raekai World's Worst Detective Join Date: May 2011 Location: Columbus, Ohio	Re: Quick Question: Innate Attack melee modifiers for a giant's follow-up? Aaand... I can't find it. I checked Innate Attack, the Melee Attack modifier, and Follow-Up. I'm not seeing a single thing about modifying for size... EDIT: Ignore that. I'm an idiot. You gave me page numbers. I jumped the gun.

06-05-2013, 11:51 AM	#5
Raekai World's Worst Detective Join Date: May 2011 Location: Columbus, Ohio	Re: Quick Question: Innate Attack melee modifiers for a giant's follow-up? Aaand... I still can't find it. I'm not looking for modifying existing damage. I'm looking at Follow-Ups. For Albert's fiery punches. Burning Attack with Follow-Up. But how do I price the Follow-Up? His reach isn't like any of the Melee limitations. What you gave me page numbers for is about making his punches do double knockback, etc.

06-05-2013, 01:44 PM	#6
Sunrunners_Fire Join Date: Mar 2010	Re: Quick Question: Innate Attack melee modifiers for a giant's follow-up? Is there a reason you aren't using Follow-Up (Natural Attack), +0%? (GURPS Basic, pg 105)

06-05-2013, 01:47 PM	#7
gjc8 Join Date: Oct 2005	Re: Quick Question: Innate Attack melee modifiers for a giant's follow-up? Per characters p. 105, I'd say Follow-up is +0% in this case. It uses claws or teeth as examples, but the rule appears to apply to any natural weapon, which would include basic punching.