rule clarification

[Mister Ed]

Originally Posted by pinchus

correct me if I'm wrong but in the rules it says

saying that if you have 5 or more you MUST give charity, implying that if you have 5 you CAN give charity if you want to

I'm pretty sure that the intent is to detail the circumstances under which the Charity rule comes into play. If you don't have excess cards in your hand at the end of the turn, then Charity doesn't come into play at all.

It has been ruled before that you can't just give other people non-item cards without something specifically allowing it, and without too many cards in your hand, the Charity rule doesn't provide that justification. Of this I am virtually certain.

[pinchus]

Originally Posted by Mister Ed

I'm pretty sure that the intent is to detail the circumstances under which the Charity rule comes into play. If you don't have excess cards in your hand at the end of the turn, then Charity doesn't come into play at all.

It has been ruled before that you can't just give other people non-item cards without something specifically allowing it, and without too many cards in your hand, the Charity rule doesn't provide that justification. Of this I am virtually certain.

thanks for the clarification

[bonetm]

Originally Posted by pinchus

saying that if you have 5 or more you MUST give charity, implying that if you have 5 you CAN give charity if you want to

I didn't said "MUST", I said you only CAN give Charity if you have more than 5 cards in your hand...

[MunchkinMan]

Originally Posted by pinchus

saying that if you have 5 or more you MUST give charity, implying that if you have 5 you CAN give charity if you want to

The rules say more than 5, not 5 or more. You must perform Charity if you have more than 5 cards in your hand. If you don't have more than 5 cards in your hands, or you can play enough cards to get you down to 5 or less, Charity doesn't come in to play, and you have no legal way to just give cards to someone.

[Clipper]

Originally Posted by Mister Ed

You have to deal with the excess immediately. Unfortunately, during combat there are not a lot of legal options other than giving them away/discarding them. You could play another Dwarf card if you had one (assuming it was your turn, or you had somehow just recieved it if it wasn't your turn) to allow you to keep the extra items. But you can't sell during combat, you can't play a hireling during combat (there's a lot of stuff you can't do during combat) and you can't wait until combat is over to deal with the situation.

You actually can play a Hireling during combat. The rules say:

Originally Posted by The Need For Steed Rules

You can play a Hireling at any time, even in combat, as long as you have only one Hireling in play at a time.

Even if you only have the Hireling from Munchkin and Munchkin 3 (which don't follow the Hireling rules unless you have a set with the Hireling rules), they are not Items, so they can be played during combat as there is no restriction.

Playing a Hireling from your hand is a perfectly valid way to save one of your extra Big Items if you legally had them somehow and lost that ability.

[Mister Ed]

Originally Posted by Clipper

Playing a Hireling from your hand is a perfectly valid way to save one of your extra Big Items if you legally had them somehow and lost that ability.

Snazzy! Though I don't know how often I have a Hireling sitting in my hand when I've got none on the table, so this will probably never come into play for me. ;-)

[Brf]

Originally Posted by Clipper

Is it correct to say 5 or less? This implies that you could have 6 cards and pay 2 in Charity to get to 4. You must stop at your hand limit of 5 when you are actually paying cards as Charity, right?

MM is referring to playing cards before charity. If you play enough cards to get to 5-or-less, then you do not give charity.