familiars template help.

Neon_goggles · 12-10-2011, 02:16 PM

I am running a fantasy games with 175 pt PCs and I am having trouble getting the price for the familiars down. Chaos Familiars made by Chaos Mages who use threshold-ritual magic and are made from a mix of primordial chaos and there masters blood. when they are unsummoned they live in a pocket Plane inside the Chaos Mages soul. when they die they return to this Plane and if the mage doesn't do a 30 min ritual with in a week then they and the Plane are gone forever. this is the template so far but i would like it if it where cheaper.

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advantages: Unkillable 3 (trigger 30 min ritual:very common {-10%}) [143]
regeneration (fast; only when unsummoned {-10%}) [45]

disadvantages: fragile (unnatural) [-50] dead broke [-25] vulnerabilty (rare; silver; x4) [-20] dependency (V.common; masters blood; weekly) [-10]
cp:83

am i missing something obvious? any help would be appreciated.

Proteus · 12-10-2011, 02:21 PM

An unkillable familiar should be expensive.

You could buy down stats as part of the template (ST-5 for -50 points, IQ-2 for -40) to get the price back down closer to zero. After all, familiars are often depicted as smaller and weaker than a typical human.

Neon_goggles · 12-10-2011, 02:45 PM

yea.. i hoped there would be a different answer than that. although when i look at the template the Unkillable dosent have that the ritual needs to be done within a week. would a -5% be fair?

Gorkamorka · 12-10-2011, 03:25 PM

Why does it regenerate?

Neon_goggles · 12-10-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorkamorka

Why does it regenerate?

so you can summon it back quickly after it dies? you need to be at full hp to come back to life with Unkillable 3. if it only regenerated when it's dead then it would be easier to kill it if it gets injured to bring it to full health.

roguebfl · 12-10-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Neon_goggles

so you can summon it back quickly after it dies? you need to be at full hp to come back to life with Unkillable 3. if it only regenerated when it's dead then it would be easier to kill it if it gets injured to bring it to full health.

GURPS Power p.70 puts Regeneration (Unkillable 3 only) as a -40% limitation.

So Regeneration (Fast; Unkillable 3 only, -40%) is [30]

Ulzgoroth · 12-10-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by roguebfl

GURPS Power p.70 puts Regeneration (Unkillable 3 only) as a -40% limitation.

So Regeneration (Fast; Unkillable 3 only, -40%) is [30]

Though you might not want that if they also need to recover fast from non-fatal incidents.

Gef · 12-10-2011, 06:32 PM

If you're open to changing the special effect, how 'bout adding the disadvantageous (Always On) version of Shadowform?

12-10-2011, 02:21 PM	#2
Proteus Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Re: familiars template help. An unkillable familiar *should* be expensive. You could buy down stats as part of the template (ST-5 for -50 points, IQ-2 for -40) to get the price back down closer to zero. After all, familiars are often depicted as smaller and weaker than a typical human.

12-10-2011, 02:45 PM	#3
Neon_goggles Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tualatin ,OR	Re: familiars template help. yea.. i hoped there would be a different answer than that. although when i look at the template the Unkillable dosent have that the ritual needs to be done within a week. would a -5% be fair?

12-10-2011, 03:25 PM	#4
Gorkamorka Ceci n'est pas un hyperlien Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Iceland	Re: familiars template help. Why does it regenerate?

12-10-2011, 06:32 PM	#8
Gef Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Yucca Valley, CA	Re: familiars template help. If you're open to changing the special effect, how 'bout adding the disadvantageous (Always On) version of Shadowform?