10-14-2021, 05:20 AM | #91 | |
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Any deforestation crisis would've been the result of short-term consumption over long-term considerations and would've been a result of the massive demand that forced the switch to coal, not the primary cause of the switch.
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10-14-2021, 07:05 PM | #92 | |
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Same goes for shipbuilding, oak needs centurys to grow large enough to be useful for ships at least warships with 90cm+ sideplanks and corniferes for masts decades. First there was experiments with copper and ironplanking than ships started to be of iron, the sail was replaced in a similar way. To that time big woods were so seldom in england that a common saying was: that if judas was visiting england there wouldn´t be enough wood to make a gallow. We are used to green pastures for sheeps in scotland for example, they are a follow of extensive deforistation and the sheeps prevent new trees. Similar it´s in the mediterranean, rome, greece and other nations needed wood for fleets the result is the machia a deforested bushland and naked rock at the coast, we find it beautiful, but it´s just the result of chopping down the woods for ships. You wouldn´t find big woods in libanon, historically known for it´s wood industry and cedars. The extreme overuse leading to a annihilation of even bushes is the easter island. |
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10-16-2021, 11:15 PM | #94 | |
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Yes, I agree. I've read about a few studies (don't have links, though) that concluded that the "every man for himself" scenario is actually fairly unlikely (luckily, because I've also read about several studies that concluded that it would be a terrible idea for all concerned and attempting to co-operate and get organised as fast as possible would be everyone's best chance of survival). When I said "optimistic", I just meant compared to the scenarios you most often get in dystopian fiction. Very true about the triffids. They're one of the most startling things in the story, but they're not the cause, just a side effect, they escaped from their pens because of the disaster and started running wild. In any kind of collapse, there probably would be things like that - things that were normally contained but got lost sight of because of the disaster. People often speculate about what would become of the nuclear power stations if there was a disaster, for instance. And, on a smaller scale, when there's a war in a city you often see news stories about the animals having escaped from the zoo and roaming the streets!
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10-17-2021, 11:18 AM | #95 | |
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Another story I read has the protagonist discover that most of the supposed humans on Earth are actually robots, because most people have gone off into idealized pocket universes.
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