Enhanced Time Sense vs Opportunity Fire

Farmer · 06-12-2021, 02:00 AM

Simple question (maybe):

If someone is covering a hex with Opportunity Fire and the opponent has Enhanced Time Sense, who goes first?

johndallman · 06-12-2021, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Farmer

If someone is covering a hex with Opportunity Fire and the opponent has Enhanced Time Sense, who goes first?

Opportunity Fire is a Wait, and Wait allows you to interrupt someone else's turn. ETS improves your mental speed, but not your physical speed.

I think the Opportunity Fire still goes first.

Farmer · 06-12-2021, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by johndallman

Opportunity Fire is a Wait, and Wait allows you to interrupt someone else's turn. ETS improves your mental speed, but not your physical speed.

I think the Opportunity Fire still goes first.

Which makes sense. But the Opportunity Fire also needs to "react" to the trigger for the wait, in which case ETS "reacts" first.

Which is why I'm asking the question :-)

So I don't know which way to go...

Celjabba · 06-12-2021, 06:37 AM

I think the ETS guy go first

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=37863
(post 6)

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ETS lets you beat Wait, yes. It explicitly lets you dodge surprise sniper shots, parry bullets (provided you have suitable skills), and pre-empt Wait maneuvers. As soon as you have reason to believe something is wrong -- say, the first bullet is shot and you get your dodge -- you can act.

Farmer · 06-12-2021, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Celjabba

I think the ETS guy go first

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=37863
(post 6)

OK That's from Kromm - I'll go with that. Thank you.

Rolando · 06-12-2021, 10:43 AM

The fact you can react to a hidden sniper or someone waiting maneuver doesn't meant you "beat them".

You can react, roll dodge, block or parry but not attack them before they shoot.

As I see it, if someone hiding shoots you you can react because you detect the gun firing or arrow flying towards you with your ETS and can dodge, block or parry (if able), but the hidden character attack is already in motion, ETS don't lets you attack before you detect the attack.

If you can perceive the hidden attacker before they attack I can see that you are able to act (not just react) before them, thanks to ETS.

So, at least some perception roll vs the attacker stealth or camouflage in most "hidden sniper" situations.

06-12-2021, 02:00 AM	#1
Farmer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia	Enhanced Time Sense vs Opportunity Fire Simple question (maybe): If someone is covering a hex with Opportunity Fire and the opponent has Enhanced Time Sense, who goes first? __________________ Farmer Mortal Wombat "But if the while I think on thee, dear friend All losses are restored and sorrows end."

06-12-2021, 10:43 AM	#6
Rolando MIB Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Panama	Re: Enhanced Time Sense vs Opportunity Fire The fact you can react to a hidden sniper or someone waiting maneuver doesn't meant you "beat them". You can react, roll dodge, block or parry but not attack them before they shoot. As I see it, if someone hiding shoots you you can react because you detect the gun firing or arrow flying towards you with your ETS and can dodge, block or parry (if able), but the hidden character attack is already in motion, ETS don't lets you attack before you detect the attack. If you can perceive the hidden attacker before they attack I can see that you are able to act (not just react) before them, thanks to ETS. So, at least some perception roll vs the attacker stealth or camouflage in most "hidden sniper" situations.