50-point Abilities

[Otaku]

Originally Posted by Nereidalbel

On a failed roll, the hex you intended to exclude also shifts, allowing you to fry yourself. And RoF 300 is still subject to scatter, which will end up with 300 AoE effects covering the same guy no matter what. It's just that some (most) won't be centered on the initial target.

True...

...but if we worry about that, what about all the other unintended targets?

Now that I think about it, I also am wondering why we go with 1d-3 for the damage, as opposed to say a single point of damage (calculated as if it werer 0.25d, right?). If the original M.U.N.C.H.K.I.N. isn't rules legal, perhaps variants that leave out different elements of it (to save points) is a good idea.

[Nereidalbel]

Originally Posted by Otaku

True...

...but if we worry about that, what about all the other unintended targets?

Now that I think about it, I also am wondering why we go with 1d-3 for the damage, as opposed to say a single point of damage (calculated as if it werer 0.25d, right?)

Because there was more than enough room in the budget to give yourself 3 DR and be immune to your own attack.

[roguebfl]

Originally Posted by Nereidalbel

Because there was more than enough room in the budget to give yourself 3 DR and be immune to your own attack.

Except cosmic +50 isn't enough. Cosmic (by pass DR) is actually the highest level of Armour Divisor, so you need multiple level of Harding to stop it.

[Otaku]

Originally Posted by roguebfl

Except cosmic +50 isn't enough. Cosmic (by pass DR) is actually the highest level of Armour Divisor, so you need multiple level of Harding to stop it.

Plus as it was written, wasn't it good against all Impaling damage? So it will be that effective not only against your own attack, but everything else. What would be the Limitation for DR only against your own attack?

[Nereidalbel]

Originally Posted by roguebfl

Except cosmic +50 isn't enough. Cosmic (by pass DR) is actually the highest level of Armour Divisor, so you need multiple level of Harding to stop it.

Wrong. +50% is the Defense or Countermeasure tier, which allows DR to function against Irresistible Attacks with a 300% Cosmic. The two Cosmics cancel each other out, resolving the attack as if neither trait had Cosmic.

[roguebfl]

Originally Posted by Otaku

Plus as it was written, wasn't it good against all Impaling damage? So it will be that effective not only against your own attack, but everything else. What would be the Limitation for DR only against your own attack?

It's also not needed to defined you from your own attack as that can be done with Selective Area it already has. Though it can be used agasined some who has the same ability.

[Shrex]

Originally Posted by Wicked Lurker

Yep.. but the question still remains: whats the reason for it?
Metal absorbing magic? Thick materials blocking power-rays?

Maybe its just a matter of different gaming styles- but I always try to find some reason as to why you can't wear armor while activating such a power.

That should be up to each individual player.

[Shrex]

Originally Posted by Blackseasofinfinity

B142: Life bane gives -2 on reaction rolls made by anyone in a position to notice it...," then later: "... for instance, you need never buy insect repellent!"

It basically already has that feature and gives a limitation. It's still a disadvantage.

But I agree with Der Wanderer... what GM in his right mind would allow this? ;)

What's kind of funny is, almost all of our players were taking this every game, so our GM decided it should cost +15 points instead of -10... lol, no one takes it now ;).

Could also be a perk

[Matthias von Schwarzwald]

Originally Posted by Gurps Fan

Munchkin's Universe-shaking Nondirectional Cosmic Hyperluminal Kinetoelectromagnetic Interference Neurodisrupter (M.U.N.C.H.K.I.N.) (+5190%):

Toxic Attack 1 point (Affects Insubstantial, +20%; Area Effect, 2475880078570760549798248448 yards (about 74 gigaparsecs), +4550%; Cosmic, Irresistible attack, +300%; Emanation, -20%; Rapid Fire, RoF 300, +300%; Selective Area, +20%; Underwater, +20%) [53].

Notes: It's a cosmic attack, literally. Pulses of cosmic energy that radiate from the attacker (reaching 74 gigaparsecs in a flat second) burning out the neural system of living beings in the affected area, and remember that even the edge of our universe is "merely" about 10 gigaparsecs away from Earth. Also note that an Area Effect attack with Emanation involves no to-hit roll and simply affects anyone in the area. Furthermore, it allows victims only to dive for cover, and actually there's no effective cover since this Cosmic, Irresistible attack ignores DR. In conclusion, the user can attack every living thing in our entire universe, with 1 point of damage, 300 times per second. Have fun. 53 points.

I assume someone's already mentioned that Rapid Fire is a ranged attack modifier and Emanation specifically states that it's incompatible with those, but I might be wrong and there are entirely too many pages for me to check.

Edit: Turns out Shrex mentioned it on page 88, two years ago. . .

Edit 2: I'd delete this, but I can't figure out how.