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Federal LEO or Other Jobs for Unfazeable Killer in 1953
Later events will overtake Antonio 'Tony' Manzano's potential federal career, but while rolling for his performance in the Korean War, I got extremely high Reaction Rolls for some senior officers who witnessed Tony in combat.
Someone really senior noticed some of the things Manzano did and when I rolled some more, not just one someone senior, but he became notorious among the senior commanders after his battalion commander noticed him in his first fight (granted, D company lost all officers except one lieutenant, and most of their NCOs, so when the remains of a platoon were following this young PFC as he calmly directed their effective return fire with 3.5" bazookas, it stood out a bit). And over sixteen days where the 2nd CEB (Combat Engineer Battalion) was inserted by companies to plug holes in the defensive lines of the 2nd Infantry Division, most of them were killed or wounded, but this PFC just kept directing his fellow combat engineers in using their explosives and heavy weapons to stop the enemy assaults, all the while popping off accurate shots with a carbine he grabbed once his M1 Garand was too hot to fire safely. Tony's not some kind of hyper-driven individual, an elite athlete or all revved-up about performing heroic feats. It's more that he's got a few things missing, psychologically. He doesn't feel fear, neither physical fear for himself nor anxiety over the future. Nor does he seem bothered about the mass slaughter taking place on both sides, the only emotion he shows is boyish enthusiasm when he gets to blow something up, and an easy confidence that even older, more experienced soldiers find themselves relying on. Tony grew up during the Depression, where his large family was fed largely on what the men in the family shot, which definitely included Tony from the first time he picked up a .22 rifle and single-barrel shotgun from Sears. Other men in his family were far better outdoorsmen, but Tony could always shoot if he found a bird, squirrel or groundchuck. And so far, Tony doesn't feel any different shooting North Koreans than he did shooting squirrels, except they're bigger targets. The 2nd CEB seems to have had terrible luck their first four months in Korea. Replacements from back home, the occupying force in Japan and Koreans as part of the KATUSA system barely kept pace with the horrendous casualties of constant combat with the North Koreans and when the Chinese invaded, the 2nd CEB was left to hold off several Chinese divisions while the rest of the 2nd Infantry retreated through a lethal gauntlet of six miles through a narrow passage under lethal fire. Only about a quarter of the 2nd CEB made it back to friendly lines, the rest were killed or captured. Tony Manzano was one of the fortunate ones, despite a bullet wound through his torso he didn't notice in the heat of combat. After that, Tony was given a battlefield commission, as he'd been leading a composite platoon composed of survivors through the entire retreat, and there were not remotely enough surviving officers. Tony Manzano served until the Armstice of the 1953. His battlefield rank was in the Army of the USA, which does not exist in peacetime. Given the collection of medals Tony earned over three years of war uncomplicated with fear, nerves or moral regrets, there might have been a chance for him to get a Reserve commission or at least a senior NCO rank in the peacetime Army. Other than that, what might be some federal positions which a senior officer (who in peacetime might be a politician or hold some different government job) might feel a man without fear or any problems with violence could be useful in? Manzano has a decent high school education and an Associate of Applied Science degree in gunsmithing from Trinidad State Junior College. He speaks some Spanish and Italian, he's learned a fair bit of practical engineering know-how during his service, mostly combat engineering, but he's commanded men building roads, bridges and dockworks too. Going to college for a proper degree hasn't yet occured to him, but if someone suggested it, he'd try to get his A.A.S. degree and military service to count as credits, to minimize the time he'd have to waste in classrooms. More than college, though, Tony would like some kind of civilian career that won't feel boring compared to combat engineering. He figures he could make a good secret agent, but the new CIA are notorious for mostly hiring Ivy League graduates from 'good' families, which Tony certainly isn't. In addition to his second-generation immigrant Italian ancestry, he's got a little Anglo, about a quarter Hispanic, and an eighth Isleta Pueblo Native Amerifan heritage. The FBI aren't above their own snobbery, and almost all of their agents are college educated, with many having graduate degrees in accounting, law or some scientific field for their forensics experts. What might be a plausible federal position which a patron who was a senior officer in the military could place a young man without a bachelor degree? And where having ice water in the veins and never seeming angry or upset could be assets?
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10-12-2024, 02:08 PM | #2 |
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Re: Federal LEO or Other Jobs for Unfazeable Killer in 1953
The DEA seems like it would be a good fit (he could be an undercover DEA Special Agent), but apparently that wasn't founded until 1973, which is a couple decades too late for him to be coming back to it from the Korean War. The ATF also seemed like it could have potential, given his knowledge of firearms and explosives, but I'd imagine he wouldn't be a fan... and it also didn't exist yet when he got home from Korea (its predecessor did, but it only concerned itself with alcohol and tobacco taxes at the time).
As for the CIA, I'll note that my family has long suspected (and he allegedly confirmed it to some of his children on his deathbed) was a spy for the US during the Cold War when he lived in Germany (running a bar), and while he was college educated (although I'm not certain if that was from before he went to Germany or after he came home), it wasn't from an Ivy League school. But he had rare talents, including being very good at lateral thinking, so they may have made an exception (although I'd imagine he wasn't actually part of the CIA, but rather worked for them in a less official capacity as an informant or similar). That was sometime after the time in question, of course, as I don't think he was even born when the Korean War ended, but I could similarly see the CIA waiving some of that to recruit a rare talent. Of course, Unfazeable may be more common in this alternate timeline than it is in our own, in which case he may not be seen as sufficiently-remarkable to make an exception for.
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Re: Federal LEO or Other Jobs for Unfazeable Killer in 1953
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War on Drugs didn't really exist yet. The No. 1 Enemy of the State in the 1950s was Communism, but that witchhunt was run by politicians, journalists, bureaucrats and lawyers, there was never any need for steely-eyes shootists from out West. Maybe, if I find some Reserve officers who served in the right units, places and times in Korea who were at the Justice, Interior or Treasury departments in their real-world lives, Tony Manzano might get enough influence on his side to be recommended for a position as a federal law enforcement officer. Formally, the Secret Service does not require a college degree, neither does the US Marshals Service, US Forest Service, etc. I'm trying to find a federal entity which had armed investigators, inspectors or Special Agents at the time, and where someone might reasonably believe that they needed a fearless gunman. But without Prohibition, the federal government just wasn't fighting any particularly scary opponents on US soil. An alternative might be if maybe a reserve officer who knew Tony Manzano in the Korean War happened to be, in real life, a prosecutor, Sheriff or police chief somewhere where a corrupt town needed cleaning up or a ruthless gangster / murderous gang / organized crime was intimidating regular law enforcement. Quote:
If Tony Manzano were living abroad or had connections in some country the CIA was tasked with operating in, maybe they'd be interested. Hell, if William King Harvey at CIA's Berlin Station heard about Tony, he'd take him in a heartbeat. Then again, Bill Harvey had been fired from the FBI for not fitting Hoover's image of a prim, serious, professional, carefully-dressed G-Man. Harvey was frequently drunk, carried at least two guns at all times, seemed to get his suits and shirts pre-crumpled, stained and sweaty, and might have been the best field agent the early CIA had. But Harvey himself can only barely keep his CIA job, he's constantly aggravating headquarters, disobeys orders and has zero influence over hiring, where properly-dressed managerial types are trying to hire clean-cut college graduates to show J. Edgar Hoover that the CIA could also be a professional, serious agency, where well-educated men went to have illustrious careers. Harvey himself might be a cowboy operator with a drinking problem and a bad attitude toward authority, but at least he had a law degree. Nope, not supposed to be. I knew he had a lot of high Will, Combat Reflexes and/or Fearlessness descendants or other relatives, but when I rolled for if he had any bonus or penalty to Fright Checks compared to what had been established about his character already, I just happened to roll 6-6-6.
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10-12-2024, 04:53 PM | #4 |
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Re: Federal LEO or Other Jobs for Unfazeable Killer in 1953
A real swashbuckler type could get in the China Air Transport but he would have to have Pilot or Mechanic (aircraft). He could also be an observer in the Asian wars.
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10-12-2024, 07:07 PM | #5 |
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Re: Federal LEO or Other Jobs for Unfazeable Killer in 1953
For that time period, the US Marshals is the best bet. After that, the US Forest Service, the NPS, or Fish and Game. Though I'm not sure when NPS got armed rangers.
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Re: Federal LEO or Other Jobs for Unfazeable Killer in 1953
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Now, when lots and lots of engines and machine parts are being scrapped for recycled steel, odds are that there are entrepreneurs who figure that parts of the aircraft engines must be useful for something from which they can make money, right? Does anyone know if there were attempts to make race cars with fighter engines, industrial equipment with hydraulics or gearing, sandblasters with turbines or even unlikelier contraptions with various scavenged parts of what had, for the most part, been perfectly functional aircraft when flown in there (some came directly there, new from factories)? Because I can imagine that hot-rodding teenagers might have been working for some of those aspiring mad geniuses, especially those, like Tony, who had good Scrounging skills and a decent technical know-how. Does anyone know whether there were attempts to cannibalize the aircraft at the great aircraft 'Boneyards' in the Southwest USA after WWII?
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Re: Federal LEO or Other Jobs for Unfazeable Killer in 1953
Green berets, founded 1952.
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10-12-2024, 09:10 PM | #8 |
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Re: Federal LEO or Other Jobs for Unfazeable Killer in 1953
The Ivy League snobbery was to be a CIA agent, not for every position. And I don't think the 50s CIA was as snobby as the OSS had been.
So how about the CIA's paramilitary Special Activities Division, which was established 1947? Now they would want killers, and they need not be college educated the way that an agent would have to be. Basically, it's the CIA's special forces. They dropped teams into Chinese occupied Tibet to train the Tibetan resistance in the 50s- now that's hard core. And they may have been there through the early 70s. SAD engaged in some shenanigans during the Korean War, too, which is what MACV-SOG was later modeled upon. SAD paramilitary officers led the first landings at the Bay of Pigs, too. Nowadays it is called the Special Activities Center (and has occasionally been referred to as "Ground Branch") and it recruits from elite US military units. And nowadays it requires a bachelor's degree, but I doubt that it had always. Look up the Office of Policy Coordination, too. (Though I think it was called the Directorate of Plans as of 1952.) But the OPC was active during the Korean War, so someone important might have noticed Tony there.
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10-12-2024, 09:46 PM | #9 |
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Re: Federal LEO or Other Jobs for Unfazeable Killer in 1953
I hadn't even considered that. He almost certainly could not make it through a modern Special Forces Qualification Course. He's not an endurance athlete, basically just an average young man (granted, from a time in history when it was normal and average for most hobbies to take place outdoors) when it comes to hiking, running or swimming, not especially brilliant at orienteering, fieldcraft, tracking or stealth. I suppose there's a chance he could power through whatever selection process existed for the very first Special Forces unit, as long as they accept slow runners and poor swimmers who'll try to improve their scores with stubborn repetition.
He was never among the Rangers in Korea or involved in special operations that would take him away from his unit, mostly because his 2d Combat Engineer Battalion had so many casualties and replacements that anyone who'd been there for more than a month was an irreplaceable expert, if only because they knew what their job was supposed to be. And without a functioning attached Combat Engineer Battalion, the 2nd Infantry Division was immobile and ineffective. Tony Manzano's notable performance in combat was largely because he could make decisions, keep his situational awareness and fire accurately just as well in real combat as he did in training. Neither targets that fired back or the knowledge that he was firing at flesh and blood humans seemed to affect him much. That made him lethal as an individual combatant and exceptional as the leader of a unit of combat engineers, but for all of his heroics in Korea, he had vehicles to ride in, radios to coordinate and somebody else there to help him figure out where they were on the map. He wouldn't necessarily make a good cavalry scout, forward observer, reconaissance man, sniper, pathfinder, long-range recon patrolman, guerillla, field trauma surgeon, communication and signals expert or any of the many other jobs special operations forces are meant to do. He was an excellent designated marksman before his field commission and still sometimes borrowed a rifle to shoot an annoying Chinaman in the distance, he was an enthusiastic demolition expert (heavier on the demolition than expertise, he'd rather use too much than too little) and a great combat leader. In GURPS terms, though, Special Forces Q-Course was designed to test for the highest basic Attributes available, both because these make the job easier, but also because testing everyone until their HT reserves ran out was one of the only ways to see who had high Will. And Special Forces were supposed to be able to manufacture a guerilla force of resistance fighters to order, by teaching them a bunch of sneaky, snake-eating ninja skills, few of which Tony even has at this point. Can he learn them fast enough to be selected? I guess he's impressed some people enough to try. A lot of people think that brave and skilled soldiers automatically make good special operators, even if you can be a brave and skilled soldier while having fairly average ST, DX, IQ and HT, especially if you have Unfazeable and High Pain Threshold.
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'Agents' are people who are blackmailed, bribed, tricked or some combination thereof to give information to intelligence officers or to use influence on their behalf. The intelligence officer who runs an agent is called their 'case officer'. The equivalent to case officers in police work are detectives and the equivalent of agents are 'snitches' or informants. CIA officers of the SAD/SAC are/were 'Paramilitary Officers'. The early CIA was composed of factions, one of which was the OSS 'old boys club', but another and more powerful, was the Foggy Bottom influenced, Ivy League- (or wishing they were, like graduates of Georgetown) educated, Anglophile, faux-cosmopolitan bureaucrats who wanted the CIA to be taken seriously as an institution. And even though he served in the old OSS, James Jesus Angleton was the archetypical snobby, serious CIA officer, and basically crippled US intelligence for a couple of decades by suspecting everyone who wasn't so posh as to be basically British.
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