11-10-2015, 03:44 PM | #1 |
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[LT] [LTIA] Quick Question: Cheap Before or After Padding?
Canonically speaking and rules as written, should the cheap quality modifier, Low-Tech, p. 109, be applied before or after adding padding to a helmet?
I know it depends if it is part of the helmet or not, but generally speaking, if one has a medium plate pot helm from Low-Tech: Instant Armor, then adds padding, then decides he wants to make it cheap quality from LTIA p. 18, should the cheap be applied to $500 or $510? In other words, should the cheap-quality version be $310 or $306? Rules references and page numbers appreciated! Thanks!
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11-10-2015, 03:55 PM | #2 | |
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Re: [LT][LTIA] Quick Question: Cheap Before or After Padding?
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I'd use the slightly larger $310 price if you want to include DR 1, or charge the $6 for "fits well, but not extra protection."
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11-10-2015, 04:11 PM | #3 |
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Re: [LT][LTIA] Quick Question: Cheap Before or After Padding?
Okay, I hear you, but the DR is unchanged regardless if cheap is applied before or after padding is added, right?
A non-cheap helmet has DR 6 ($500). Add padding is 7 ($510). A non-cheap padded helmet has DR 7 ($510). A cheap helmet has DR 5 ($300). Add padding is 6 ($310). A cheap padded helmet has DR 6 ($306). Same DR, less money. However, if you're saying historically, padding was usually always separate, like a little sock hat or whatever, and that Low-Tech was designed to add padding as an absolute value, then okay, I can get on board with that. In fact, it will make my job easier. Otherwise, I can see a cheap helmet having cheap padding and a fine helmet having fine padding attached to the helmet in both cases.
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11-10-2015, 04:17 PM | #4 | |
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I can't speak to the historicity of it. But I can (as Lead Playtester of LTIA) tell you how we modeled it.
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11-10-2015, 04:29 PM | #5 | |
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11-10-2015, 05:04 PM | #6 |
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Re: [LT][LTIA] Quick Question: Cheap Before or After Padding?
Okay. Perfect. Glad to hear. Thanks a lot.
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11-10-2015, 05:12 PM | #7 |
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Re: [LT][LTIA] Quick Question: Cheap Before or After Padding?
Oh, crap. That brings up another question, much as I hate to ask.
RAW and canon, if it's entirely separate piece of armor, shouldn't it have it's own don time?
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11-10-2015, 05:15 PM | #8 |
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Re: [LT][LTIA] Quick Question: Cheap Before or After Padding?
I think this is a case of don't be overdriven mechanically. The padding is tied or riveted into the armor, so you don them simultaneously. i suspect that if you put them on one at a time voluntarily, it will be the same as any other helmet.
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11-10-2015, 05:22 PM | #9 |
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Re: [LT][LTIA] Quick Question: Cheap Before or After Padding?
Very well. I can certainly accept that.
Thanks again.
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