The Return of Defaultspace

[David Johnston2]

The last time I was unclear so first let me precisely define what I'm calling "Defaultspace". Defaultspace is the setting in which most non-licensed sourcebooks for Space 3rd edition are set by default. To be specific, that would be the four Space Atlases, Star Demon, Flight 13, Unnight, GURPS Space Adventures, Space bestiary and Aliens. It might also include some pyramid articles. It specifically does not include Atomic Horror, Solar Patrol or any licensed property.

What we know about Defaultspace are these things:

It is very far in the future. Human colonized planets nowhere near Earth have reached their carrying capacity and there was a "Long Night" that broke up human civilization. Before humanity first developed interstellar travel there was a previous period of interstellar civilization but the only identified technological races from that time that haven't been rendered extinct or possibly ascended to become Auroras are the Engai and the Markann. And the Markann are nothing more than a rumour to humanity.

The reference tech level is probably TL 11 in the more advanced areas with backwaters like the Great Spiral Confederacy being TL 10.

Identified interstellar polities include:

The Corporate Worlds, a loose and fractious association of corporate states in Space Atlas 2. All of the worlds shown to us are human worlds.

The Federation: A tightly knit human(and parahuman) dominated representative democracy in Space Atlas 4. It is located on the outer edge of the Orion arm bordering the expanse between the Orion and Perseus arms, at least 3,000 light years away from Sol's position not so far from the inner edge. It is human dominated to the point hat "human" is actually in the name of two of the major parties. Aliens are a tiny minority on Federation worlds.

The Phoenix Domain. Neighbour to the Federation is the Phoenix Domain. Treat as an Empire.

The Great Spiral Confederacy. Occupying a remote extra galactic cluster with a great night sky view, the Confederacy is treated as an Alliance.

The...?Alliance A more heterogenous and probably larger mutual defense and trade association that includes many different species from the Aliens book. Treat as an Alliance. Possibly includes the Old Frontiers sector from Space Atlas 1.

The Kaa Empire. Probably the largest non-human ruled interstellar society in known space and the biggest threat to the ?Alliance. Treat as an Empire.

The Ilshani Domination. An aggressive alien society that threatens both the Federation and the Phoenix Domain

Questions:

Are there products I've overlooked that fit into the setting?

What the heck is the proper name of the ?Alliance? Or rarther what should it be?

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

The last time I was unclear so first let me precisely define what I'm calling "D
The tech level is late 10^ for humans and their rivals and associates. Starships use fusion powerplants (or fission if they're looking for something cheaper and dirtier). While TL 8 has been changed since 3rd edition, TL 10 is mostly the same between editions. They are still using fusion power, blasters and X-Ray Lasers. They aren't yet using forcefields, nanotechnology, or antimatter reactors. e?

Are you using 4e? Blasters and X-ray lasers are solidly TL11 in (default) 4e.

In the change to 4e TL8 was mostly turned into TL9 and much of what was TL9 was squished into TL10.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Fred Brackin

Are you using 4e? Blasters and X-ray lasers are solidly TL11 in (default) 4e.

In the change to 4e TL8 was mostly turned into TL9 and much of what was TL9 was squished into TL10.

You are right. OK, so make it TL 11...but early TL 11 that isn't making much use of anti-matter.

[Michael Thayne]

You might want to use the tech framework for the Martians (and other aliens) from GURPS Mars Attacks, which is basically "TL10^, plus higher TL stuff if the GM thinks it would be cool."

In 4e, TL10 is basically the highest TL where it doesn't require a great deal of thought on the GM's part to stop the PCs from breaking the setting.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Michael Thayne

You might want to use the tech framework for the Martians (and other aliens) from GURPS Mars Attacks, which is basically "TL10^, plus higher TL stuff if the GM thinks it would be cool."

In 4e, TL10 is basically the highest TL where it doesn't require a great deal of thought on the GM's part to stop the PCs from breaking the setting.

Negatory. The Martians anomalous technology is mostly inserted as plot devices. Their new bizarre tool poses a problem for the protagonists. Once they figure out how to neutralize the problem, the tool is simply forgotten, never seen again. That's fine for NPC foes. It's not suitable for player characters.

[David Johnston2]

Now, here's a challenging question for someone who forgot his high school geometry. What's the curvature of the Orion arm? It has a diameter of 1100 parsecs, give or take. GURPS Space sectors are 40 by 32 by 32 parsecs. At the center of the Orion Arm that works out to 34 sectors tall. But the Phoenix and Saga sectors are at the rimward edge of the Arm. Beyond them is a 2,000 parsec expanse filled with nothing but tiny red suns Above the Phoenix Sector is an unexplored area of space occupied by the Malakithi, including the Ilshani Domination although they don't seem to be the only Malakith nation. Below is terra incognita but it's likely that the Federation and the Domain extend downwards to some extent as well as coreward, but probably control.

The question is, how do they stack? 17 sectors up, from Phoenix's position you are going to be outside the Orion Arm because it curved away from you. So does that mean 8 sectors up only roughly half of the sector is inside the Arm?