Horizontal/Quadruped and BL

clu2415 · 02-10-2020, 07:58 AM

Double checking that stuff like Horizontal and Quadruped don’t have knock-on effects on your carrying capacity. You have to explicitly buy Lifting ST if you want that effect.

ericthered · 02-10-2020, 11:33 AM

Yes. You pay for what you get.

However, you if you have no fine manipulators, which is included in Quadruped, you can apply a -40% limitation to buying strength.

Plane · 02-11-2020, 06:49 AM

Probably worth noting of course that most beings can carry more on their backs than in their arms which is how quadriped mounts tend to do, relying on other's ST to actually lift the stuff (or themselves) ONTO their backs so that only Encumbrance is an issue.

malloyd · 02-11-2020, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Plane

Probably worth noting of course that most beings can carry more on their backs than in their arms which is how quadriped mounts tend to do, relying on other's ST to actually lift the stuff (or themselves) ONTO their backs so that only Encumbrance is an issue.

Though you mostly will not need to. Many quadruped animals will be at risk of injury if you load more than 15% of their weight on their back. For humans that is Light Encumbrance, or None.

With the kinds of ST scores animals are usually given, you don't need Lifting ST, you often need an encumbrance *reduction* to get realistic carrying capacities from your horses or dogs or whatever.

Sorenant · 02-11-2020, 09:56 AM

I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as someone like lwcamp, but from the little I know horses are particularly good at carrying stuff in their back compared to other similar quadrupeds like zebras, something about their spines.
Given the above and previous discussions, I think the most realistic approach is to give horses some levels of Lifting ST on top of their normal ST (which might be lower than what B459-460 suggests).

02-10-2020, 07:58 AM	#1
clu2415 Join Date: Jun 2016	Horizontal/Quadruped and BL Double checking that stuff like Horizontal and Quadruped don’t have knock-on effects on your carrying capacity. You have to explicitly buy Lifting ST if you want that effect.

02-10-2020, 11:33 AM	#2
ericthered Hero of Democracy Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: far from the ocean	Re: Horizontal/Quadruped and BL Yes. You pay for what you get. However, you if you have no fine manipulators, which is included in Quadruped, you can apply a -40% limitation to buying strength. __________________ Be helpful, not pedantic Worlds Beyond Earth -- my blog Check out the PbP forum! If you don't see a game you'd like, ask me about making one!

02-11-2020, 06:49 AM	#3
Plane Join Date: Aug 2018	Re: Horizontal/Quadruped and BL Probably worth noting of course that most beings can carry more on their backs than in their arms which is how quadriped mounts tend to do, relying on other's ST to actually lift the stuff (or themselves) ONTO their backs so that only Encumbrance is an issue.

02-11-2020, 09:56 AM	#5
Sorenant Join Date: Jan 2015	Re: Horizontal/Quadruped and BL I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as someone like lwcamp, but from the little I know horses are particularly good at carrying stuff in their back compared to other similar quadrupeds like zebras, something about their spines. Given the above and previous discussions, I think the most realistic approach is to give horses some levels of Lifting ST on top of their normal ST (which might be lower than what B459-460 suggests).