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06-17-2019, 06:41 PM | #112 |
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Did I confuse bionics with cybernetics? I doubt it.
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06-17-2019, 07:54 PM | #113 |
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I for example have a totally mechanical heart valve which is "bionic" by the popular definition given in Webster. Heck by the definition webster give for the popular definition a clone organ would be "bionic". "A perfect bionic arm would move and function as easily as a real arm" fits a totally biological arm that is attached even if that arm isn't that of a human being. |
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06-17-2019, 09:16 PM | #115 | |
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bionic Definition of bionic 1 : of or relating to bionics 2 : having normal biological capability or performance enhanced by or as if by electronic or electromechanical devices - Last edited by David Johnston2; 06-17-2019 at 09:36 PM. |
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06-18-2019, 06:38 AM | #116 | |
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"The science of bionics uses knowledge about how biological systems work to help solve engineering problems. The material Velcro, for example, was inspired by the way burrs behave when they stick to your clothes, and some computer chips are now wired in ways that imitate the "wiring" of the brain and nervous system. But in popular use, the adjective bionic almost always describes artificial limbs or other bodily parts that work as much like real ones as possible. A perfect bionic arm would move and function as easily as a real arm—a goal we're rapidly getting closer to." No mention of electronic in that and even in the example you give there is that "as if by" which shows there are exceptions for the second definition. Heck one of the use examples refers to Bionic Mushrooms which doesn't fit the electronic part. As I said before a clone arm fits that "move and function as easily as a real arm" definition which would make Frankenstein's monster "bionic" Then you have Electromechanical: 1) of, relating to, or being a mechanical process or device actuated or controlled electrically 2) especially : being a transducer for converting electrical energy to mechanical energy The Bionic Mushrooms fits the electromechanical part of the popular definition. Last edited by maximara; 06-18-2019 at 06:51 AM. |
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06-18-2019, 07:32 AM | #117 |
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06-18-2019, 08:08 AM | #118 | |
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In any case, I can't recall ever hearing the word bionic to refer to something apart from electro-mechanical body parts, and none of its usage in GURPS books support the broader meaning (not that it's actually used that much). In any case, I'm not sure what this has to do with the question in the OP.
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06-18-2019, 09:12 AM | #119 |
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This tangent arose from the argument that what defines TL 9 involves tech that is technically really old but only if you use definitions that are not commonly held by the public.
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06-18-2019, 09:51 AM | #120 |
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My only point in clarifying how Velcro was bionics was to point out what Jack Steele meant when he coined the term. "[T]he study of biological organisms to find solutions to engineering problems" as stated on Mr. Steele's Wikipedia page.
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