06-24-2022, 01:09 PM | #1 |
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Value of Disadvantage that forces you to shapeshift involuntarily?
You have the Alternate Form advantage. Let's s say you can shift into the form of a large intelligent wolf.
But you also have a disadvantage that triggers in the same circumstances that Bad Temper would trigger. And when it triggers, you are locked into spending the next 10 seconds shifting into your Alternate Form. You cannot stop the transformation and you cannot do anything else. This could be really dangerous in combat. And outing yourself as a werewolf in mixed company probably won't go over very well in most settings. How much would such a disadvantage be worth?
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06-24-2022, 01:15 PM | #2 |
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Re: Value of Disadvantage that forces you to shapeshift involuntarily?
Wouldn't that just be the Uncontrollable limitation on Alternate Form?
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06-24-2022, 01:17 PM | #3 |
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Re: Value of Disadvantage that forces you to shapeshift involuntarily?
That's not a Disadvantage. It's a Limitation on your Alternate Form. Specifically Uncontrollable.
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06-24-2022, 02:07 PM | #4 |
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Re: Value of Disadvantage that forces you to shapeshift involuntarily?
I actually use Compulsive Shapeshifting [15] to represent this in my games. Any time you fail a Will or self-control roll, come under specific stimulus chosen when taken (e.g., moonlight), make a roll. Failure means you shift, success gives penalties on rolls equal to those you'd get on a controlled Phobia roll.
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06-24-2022, 03:22 PM | #5 |
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Re: Value of Disadvantage that forces you to shapeshift involuntarily?
I removed my answer, because its wrong and is about a different issue.
Chris has a good thought. Divine curse [-10] could also work.
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Re: Value of Disadvantage that forces you to shapeshift involuntarily?
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* Any roll of 14+ fails. * "On a failure, the GM takes over your ability, playing it as though it were an entity of a prankish or hostile nature." * "After each uncontrolled act, you get another Will roll to control your power." What I was looking for was one roll. As soon as you've shifted, the ability is back under your control again. Though I'd expect that directly shifting back to your normal form rarely is the right thing to do. Quote:
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06-24-2022, 05:10 PM | #7 |
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Re: Value of Disadvantage that forces you to shapeshift involuntarily?
I set it at -15 points because it can be *seriously* inconvenient - especially in settings where shapeshifters are not known like most urban fantasy. If it's not to terribly socially problematic then -10 might work.
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06-24-2022, 05:21 PM | #8 |
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Re: Value of Disadvantage that forces you to shapeshift involuntarily?
That is the type of setting I'm looking at. And in the wrong place, it could definitely reveal your Secret. And -15 would work just as well as -10.
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06-24-2022, 05:35 PM | #9 |
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Re: Value of Disadvantage that forces you to shapeshift involuntarily?
Trust me, it's worth the -15 points in such situations. One of my players argued for -20 points after playing a were. -15 feels about right though and that's what we use.
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06-24-2022, 07:03 PM | #10 |
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Re: Value of Disadvantage that forces you to shapeshift involuntarily?
http://www.sjgames.com/pyramid/sample.html?id=5782
If you further can't control the form at all, Designer's Notes for Powers has a Disadvantageous Alternate Form. I think I'd change the prices having used it myself, adding at least -5 to prices or just doubling them. In effect, you have a disadvantage that replaces the PC with an NPC under certain circumstances. |
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