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Old 07-27-2011, 12:33 AM   #1
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Default 4E Books with 'real' Gun Stats

Just wanting to make sure that I am aware of all of the books with 4E 'real' gun stats:

4E Books with Gun Stats:

GURPS High-Tech
GURPS Martial Arts: Fairbairn Close Combat Systems
GURPS High-Tech: Pulp Guns, Volume 1
GURPS High-Tech: Pulp Guns, Volume 2
GURPS Gun Fu
GURPS SEALS in Vietnam
GURPS Tactical Shooting


And:

Pyramid 2E

The two HCV articles:

'Modern Firepower at the Movies' and
'Pulp Guns at the Movies'

Plus Pyramid 3E
'Monster Hunter Firepower at the Movies' in
3/31 Monster Hunters
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Old 07-27-2011, 12:52 AM   #2
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Loadouts: Monster Hunters has a handful that may not be replicated elsewhere.
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Old 07-27-2011, 08:56 AM   #3
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Really seems like we need complete "Weapon Tables" or at least an index including the guns from all listed sources... (probably a fan-mission)
ATM it's not really comfortable if you're searching for a specific gun which is not in High-Tech ;)
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:12 AM   #4
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Even with High Tech, there's sub-variations that are in the text descriptions and not on the table.

It can get to be too much.

I made a document with every gun stat from all the books so I can search for a name if I want.

Very tedious since I put all those subvariations in. Like all the BAR calibers...
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Old 07-29-2011, 01:33 AM   #5
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Even with High Tech, there's sub-variations that are in the text descriptions and not on the table.
yes.

Glad to have them, but probably in the future everything in the table is a better idea.


I know from playtest experience that tables in their original format are a nightmare, but even with frex MH having the slugs for shotguns there it is just better and easier.
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:42 AM   #6
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I tend to list alt- ammo on the table with the gun.

That puts the stats for things like slugs at my finger tips.

Plus things like a .44 magnum being able to shoot .44 Special and .44 Russian...
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:57 AM   #7
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I know from playtest experience that tables in their original format are a nightmare, but even with frex MH having the slugs for shotguns there it is just better and easier.
So, I agree with this, but it should be noted that the tables in the .doc format for playtests are tab-delimited text. So you can cut/paste them into your favorite spreadsheet program for easy reading.

In fact, this works in reverse, for prospective authors.

If you work out your table in Excel, you can build a properly formatted GURPS table as follows:

1. Build the table in excel. Don't bother with bolding headers or anything.
2. Copy the entire thing
3. Paste it into the WYSIWYG template using "Paste Special/Unformatted Text"
4. You now have tab-delimited text in your file.
5. Format your first row, likely as TABLEHD
6. Format your actual table contents as TABLE or TEXT-TABLE (whatever it is)
7. Insert a single TAB before every line of text
8. Go back and put the appropriate HALFLINE insertions where they need to be.

Poof . . . basically done. You of course must check and double-check GURPSFORMATS.DOC to make sure that you've got the details right, but this trick will save a lot of time. It did for me.
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Old 07-29-2011, 09:06 AM   #8
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1. Build the table in excel. Don't bother with bolding headers or anything.
2. Copy the entire thing
3. Paste it into the WYSIWYG template using "Paste Special/Unformatted Text"
4. You now have tab-delimited text in your file.
5. Format your first row, likely as TABLEHD
6. Format your actual table contents as TABLE or TEXT-TABLE (whatever it is)
7. Insert a single TAB before every line of text
8. Go back and put the appropriate HALFLINE insertions where they need to be.

Poof . . . basically done. You of course must check and double-check GURPSFORMATS.DOC to make sure that you've got the details right, but this trick will save a lot of time. It did for me.
something to try out!
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