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Old 12-06-2020, 01:07 PM   #1
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Default Wizards staff / spear

I'm pretty sure Wizards are allowed two handed clubs as a staff. And surely a staff staff is fine too. They can also have silver daggers, even swords.

So what's the logic that says a wizard's staff cannot be a spear?

I mean - its a long bit of wood with a 'silver dagger' on the end - what's not to like?

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Old 12-06-2020, 01:18 PM   #2
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According to Decks of Destiny, spear heads are enchanted. You could put a spearhead on your staff but this would negate all of the advantages of the staff.

Or you could have a spear of solid silver that weighed 15 pounds and therefore cost $3000
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Old 12-06-2020, 02:21 PM   #3
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I'm pretty sure Wizards are allowed two handed clubs as a staff. And surely a staff staff is fine too. They can also have silver daggers, even swords.

So what's the logic that says a wizard's staff cannot be a spear?

I mean - its a long bit of wood with a 'silver dagger' on the end - what's not to like?

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I guess there's nothing for a wizard not to like about a spear staff.

But when there's nothing not to like about a particular strategy, that's a pretty good sign it's an unfair advantage.
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Old 12-06-2020, 02:38 PM   #4
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The staff description only says "common forms" include weapons like swords and daggers, so, as far as I can tell, there is nothing to say that a spear can't be a staff.
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Old 12-06-2020, 02:54 PM   #5
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My favorite variant is a gargoyle wizard with a silver spiked godendag making a 8-hex landing charge attack.
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Old 12-06-2020, 04:05 PM   #6
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The staff description only says "common forms" include weapons like swords and daggers, so, as far as I can tell, there is nothing to say that a spear can't be a staff.
I'll be darned. You're right.

I wouldn't allow it, but I like staffish staffs and not daggers, swords or spears. This time of year, I'd allow a pine sapling.

As others have pointed out, my own prejudices ignore a lot of the folklore, like athames.

If one really wanted to push a unique character who embraced both technology and magic and hence used an arquebus as a staff, I think I'd genuinely consider it just for the novelty of it. But that would be a one-off.
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Old 12-06-2020, 04:14 PM   #7
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Personally, I dislike the idea of metal 'staves' (or metal on staves) entirely. I limit this particular type of arcane foci to organic materials in my campaign.

For a really out-of-the-box idea, try a HEARTBOW.
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Old 12-06-2020, 05:43 PM   #8
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Advantage of a Bow-Staff II or higher (not to be confused with the Bo Staff) is that you can go all Green Arrow and defend with it.)
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Old 12-06-2020, 06:55 PM   #9
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It should be allowed, but I am not sure it is a good idea. Keep in mind you'll need to learn the weapon talent for it if you want to use your spear effectively. Which will set you back 4 skill points (same goes for sword staffs). I'd prefer the quarterstaff staff it does 1 more damage than a spear and only cost 2 skill points to learn.
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Old 12-06-2020, 07:16 PM   #10
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Two handed maul wizard staff does the same damage as a quarterstaff for two fewer memory points.
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