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Old 02-09-2021, 09:26 AM   #1
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I can't seem to find the location for the rule(s) that allow the fractional cost reduction for Alternate, One Time, and Costs CP abilities.

Can anyone point me there, please?
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Old 02-09-2021, 10:26 AM   #2
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I can't seem to find the location for the rule(s) that allow the fractional cost reduction for Alternate, One Time, and Costs CP abilities.

Can anyone point me there, please?
Alternative Attacks B61
Alternative Abilities P11
Limited Use: Once Ever H85
Character Point-Powered Abilities PU8p9
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Old 02-09-2021, 11:54 AM   #3
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Thanks!
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Old 02-09-2021, 12:48 PM   #4
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GURPS Horror
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Old 02-09-2021, 01:06 PM   #5
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Ah, of course.
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Old 02-09-2021, 07:11 PM   #6
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Hm. I just looked at GURPS Horror. On page 85 there is an entry in a template for Pod People that gives them Possession with Limited Use (Once Only -80%), but there is no entry in the New Limitations section for it. So I am thinking that can't be the original citation creating the Once Only limitation.

Does anyone know where the Limitation first appeared?

Also, I am fairly sure that somewhere I have seen One Use Only not as a Limitation but as an after-build divisor like Alternate Abilities gives 1/5. Am I crazy or does anyone else remember that?
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Hm. I just looked at GURPS Horror. On page 85 there is an entry in a template for Pod People that gives them Possession with Limited Use (Once Only -80%), but there is no entry in the New Limitations section for it. So I am thinking that can't be the original citation creating the Once Only limitation.

Does anyone know where the Limitation first appeared?

Also, I am fairly sure that somewhere I have seen One Use Only not as a Limitation but as an after-build divisor like Alternate Abilities gives 1/5. Am I crazy or does anyone else remember that?
Closest I can think of in Basic Set is "Favor" which is a 1/5 Ally that you normally will lose when successfully called upon, though it's not a "pure" Once Only since you actually don't lose Favor if you critically succeed in their appearance roll, which I guess you would probably make even for a "Always Appears" ally to get a chance at that benefit.

Supers had One Use Only gadgets (pg 74) and One-Use Powers (pg 112) but these were options for those with Gadgeteer and Ultrapower and actually seemed to work a lot more like "Using Abilities At Default" since it involved designing abilities as-needed on the spot for a single use than prepaying for a specific ability usable once.
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Old 02-09-2021, 08:09 PM   #8
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Also, I am fairly sure that somewhere I have seen One Use Only not as a Limitation but as an after-build divisor like Alternate Abilities gives 1/5. Am I crazy or does anyone else remember that?
I've definitely seen that, but I'm not certain it was an official source...


Hmm. I'm going to see if I can find it in Supers.
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I've definitely seen that, but I'm not certain it was an official source...


Hmm. I'm going to see if I can find it in Supers.
(I guess there was no reason to delete my last post)

Supers 114, it specifically calls out being similar to Favor.
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Old 02-09-2021, 08:43 PM   #10
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Supers 114, it specifically calls out being similar to Favor.
Dang wish I'd looked 2 pages further, I guess this is where CP-powered abilities from PU8 came from since that's the larger paragraph right after.

Wondering if "corresponds to the standard ability the same way" would mean you get to roll 3d6 and on a crit success don't even lose it?
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